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I agree. I think this is one area where SF groupthink has closed off a very interesting sartorial avenue for many people here.
So, we've been discussing "rules", and whether or not they ought to be observed, etc... since we started this forum, and while I was always on the side opposite @Manton during those many, many pages of discussion, I've come to the conclusion that the "Rules" of dressing are like Father Guido Sarducci's additional commandments (the 11th is "It's okay to eat chicken with your fingers"). They should be treated more like... suggestions, gentle good advice. Not universally applicable, but a guide to living, or in this case, dressing, well. If you are unsure of what to do, probably a good idea to listen the the suggestions, but if you decide to eat friend chicken with a knife and fork, sitting ramrod straight, like British royalty, you're probably going to be alright as well.

I'd say that there are also "strict" commandments, but these should be obvious to everyone, and like the biblical Ten Commandments. Thou Shalt Not Wear Shorts That Exposeth Thy ********. That type of stuff.
 
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But dangling sack is my steez, Fok! Why are you tryna keep me down?!
 

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But dangling sack is my steez, Fok! Why are you tryna keep me down?!
I would gently suggest that perhaps you should consider reserving those shorts for the Folsom Street Fair. I'll be in ******-free pants. See you there!

They will also work reasonably well at Burning Man, depending of which camp you are in.
 
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I think the main problem with charcoal is that it is very hard to photograph and often comes across as black in photos. IMHO that is a major reason for the general dislike of charcoal trousers (not the only one, but a certainly a strong contributing factor, navy has some of the same problems - colour representation in photos is a tricky)

Agree on the shoes though, need dark brown or burgundy if not black
I wear charcoal flannels with tan in the winter. I like the look. Dark mid-gray to charcoal seems to me fine. So count me in the charcoal camp. But the pants must be textured. The problem with that photo is that the pants could just as well come from a suit, a black suit
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, and they resolve to black (indeed, in the daylight sun, if it looks black, it's probably black).

The Barbera seems clearly in the gray zone as does the other one that Mossrock's posted (of course lighting etc helps). That's the sort of charcoal I can get behind.

I can see why these debates can get tiresome, but I think they have to be rehashed now and then for the benefit of others who have not been part of them. I wasn't around in 2008 when this conversation was had for the nth time, but when it was had a year or two ago, I learned from it.
 

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I present to all of you the inimitable Mr. Boehlke:


And in tan shoes, no less!

I'm for charcoal trousers, though I think one must acknowledge the limits of their versatility. They work as a counterpoint to certain light colored odd jackets, i.e gray tweeds or lambswool in the winter, tan frescos and linens in the summer. If they're odd trousers, I don't think they should be worsteds in the first place, better flannel or fresco (maybe a sufficiently heavy twill) for the sake of providing some texture and color variegation. Otherwise, mid gray is better by miles.

I have a charcoal flannel trouser/gray tweed combo I like to wear in colder seasons that I can dig out this week if the SF weather is mild enough. (It's summer, so of course its cold here!) I'm new and ought to do a WAYWRN post at some point, right?
 

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Just summery as all get out.
 

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I have never found Will Boehlke to be particularly well dressed. But I suppose we're just from very different generations.
 
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I have never found Will Boehlke to be particularly well dressed. But I suppose we're just from very different generations.

I would put it that his sense of style coalesced before many on this forum were born. He can be quite sedate, and occasionally anachronistic. That being what it is, I still consider him well dressed.
 

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This suit is a three-piece but the waistcoat is a little too short. It hangs yet in my wardrobe, rejected and forlorn...





 
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