Horrible fit aside (no fault to GuP or Papa GuP and horrible even accounting for Papa GuP's build), both seem to have a decent handle on dressing conservatively. Remake or refund. I think @David Reeves made the right choice getting out of the MTM game. I suspect many of the skills acquired as a bespoke tailor/fitter or whatever DR does do not translate perfectly to MTM. I doubt someone like Kent Wang (or whoever does measurements for him) could jump to measuring for bespoke without a pretty hefty learning curve.