Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, May 21, 2014.
New Brooks Bros tie.
Edit: Nevermind. Fuck it.
Next you'll be telling peeps to shine and tree their Guidi's.
Not worth it, mang. I agree though.
Victor is slowly turning into a villain in the Bourne movies. Well done!
Anyway, here is me, willing summer weather to arrive.
My *gasp* shined shoes that I put shoe trees in! Such iGent, many internet.
That's the very first time I've been accused of having contempt for earnestness.
I'm trying to broaden the appeal of great tailoring, classic lines, etc. by making it less stuffy. If you want to shine your shoes and iron your shirts, that's great, I certainly have no contempt for that. That said, if you want to look more casual in your clothing we are all for that too.
I'm happy that people like you think our clothing deserve to be honored with crisply pressed shirts and mirrored shoes but I would argue that there is more than one way to honor clothing. The way I honor my wardrobe is by wearing it to death. I don't mind if that shows but just because I dress a certain way doesn't mean that I think you should too. I do what works for me.
Fair enough, and I think I over-reached in my assertions [hence the ninja-edit]. Here's my thing, though, and I get that it potentially sets me dead against much of my generation as well as some of your brand aesthetic: good tailored clothing is expensive (even Eidos, which is an undisputed, excellent value proposition). Excellent tailoring of good ready-to-wear clothing is rare and moderately expensive. Maintenance of clothes and shoes is nearly free.
Clothes are more than items for all of us here; they are, to a great extent, self-representations. What self-representation does a man project when he buys great tailoring but wears unmaintained shoes other than a contempt for earnestness--when he'll spend for the good stuff but won't take care of it?
Is this the antithesis of one of your (laudable) objectives: to open tailoring up to people who don't identify themselves as a "traditional" customer base for tailored clothes? Maybe it is, and I respect your need to be consistent to your brand's objectives. But once they put on a beautifully tailored Eidos suit, maybe it's not too much to ask that they then think about polishing their shoes as part of that consistency.
AR lenses should be on your next to-do list.
Sorry the idea of different aesthetics swoops over your head. Also, spend some time in the Shoe Care thread to learn about the different perspectives about maintenance, too.
Edit: NickPollica is driving home the point much more succinctly and with less-snark. So see above.
Thanks for the tip!
I'm sure it was meant sincerely and not to mock my glasses at all, which would be in bad taste, of course.
That would be. This was something I've noticed before consistently.
As it happens I dislike coated lenses. I clean mine frequently and have noticed that AR coating soon flakes off. I am sorry to say that if you continue to pay attention to my fits then you will continue to notice it. Besides, coated lenses look affected.
So much passive aggressiveness in here.
NickP, you look great, but I haven't seen an example yet where outerwear being shorter than tailored clothes looks good, including yours. Perhaps if it's much, much shorter and intentional, but having your suit jacket peep out by an inch just doesn't work.
Beat up shoes can be cool, as long as it's you doing the beating up. Pre distressed shoes are whack. However, wearing beat up shoes with an otherwise brand new suit looks a bit incongruent.
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