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HOF: What Are You Wearing Right Now - Part III

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr.K, Mar 25, 2011.

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  1. luftvier

    luftvier Senior member

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    So long as it's not about me anymore.
     
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    Thank you. Now that Vox has vanished and PG has departed, there's a void waiting to be filled. I just need a few adherents and I'll be on my way.
     
  4. jj-moody

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    Spoo seems to have a signature fit. I am no proponent of his style, but I am wondering if these criticisms are based in reality or some kind of circle jerk forum kind of mentality. All of you more senior members did pile on to "protect" luftvier's obviously flawed fits, so I don't see so much reason being employed here.

    First question, 'very puffed out chest'. This implies the chest is puffed out and exaggerated. Don't see it, how so?
    'Too tight waist': The waist is hardly too tight, perhaps the rise on his trousers is low, but it is not so easy to tell from that picture.
    Too open above the button, more of a U than a V shape: No

    Despos has a really sharp eye. I had not even noticed the altered lapels until he mentioned it. If he could weigh in I think the criticisms would be more balanced.
     
  5. jj-moody

    jj-moody Well-Known Member

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    I guess I fell for the blue watch face trend by picking up an omega hr vision. Anyways, the line between fashion and 'classic men's style' isn't always as clear as you think. Everything thing you do is context dependent, classic rules of dress do not apply the way they did or else you'd wear your tailcoat and walking stick more often. And trying to seem not be following a trend is a bad as following the trend. If you have matured in your tastes you know what you like regardless of what is fashionable or not.
     
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    Some of it is preference, yes. GQ's preference right now is for absurdly tight clothing. But that doesn't mean it fits by traditional standards. At a certain point, a guy has to decide what he's going for. Personally, I think tweaking the traditional fit standards can be OK, even interesting ... if the resulting combination looks like a cohesive whole. Thom Browne has a look, though I don't care for it. But too often, what we see here are guys squeezing themselves into clothes that just look too small or ill-fitting or unflattering on their builds. The guys who are most successful at playing around with proportion generally have an excellent grasp on the traditional proportions and a strong understanding of their body types. So, in short, it depends partly on your perspective. But, at the same time, that doesn't invalidate the traditional guidelines for how clothes should fit.
     
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    Spoo is a mannequin. His attire is too perfect each time. Same poses. I'm not even sure if he is real. I doubt so. He is fictitious.

    As for Spoo's attire being of a "very puffed out chest, too-tight waist, too open above the button and more of a "U" rather than "V" shape, overall a look of a short front balance and the impression that the coat is riding up and off the neck."
    I wonder what you see through your eyes, I wouldnt want to know.
     
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    ojfc. yes, everything must be a "circle jerk." Look, considering your repeated complaints about, oh, it seems, everyone who voices any criticism in this thread, I took care to be both polite and non-snarky and very specific. Lufty's cloths do not have any obvious fit problems and they show none of the issues of spoo's that I identify above. If you want to call all of these silhouette and not fit issues, that's fine, though the front balance issue at a minimum is definitely fit. In any case, I took care to say that I don't like spoo's cut not the fit. I have also said that I am not in love with Lufty's sack silhouette either though I do think it is superior to spoo's and looks more tasteful, elegant, restrained, etc. It also closes better in front, does not look like it's riding up or pulling at the waist. I would prefer to see more of a draped chest with a trimmer hip and a slightly reduced waist on him, a la A&S or Neapolitan drape coat because that is what I like. Are we still allowed to talk about what we like here or is that now considered "rude"? :confused:
     
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    We need to get Foo in here to do some diagramming.
     
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  11. bourbonbasted

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    Puffed out chest? Too much waist suppression? Fictitious? I think I just figured out what Spoo does when he isn't selling on eBay...

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    I imagine this means he stockpiles summer fit pictures, a la Victor, as well... :D
     
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    I never realized lufty was so controversial.
     
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    There's only so much love to go around, so we must make sure it is applied judiciously.
     
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    I'm saving all my love for spoo.
     
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    You're in good company, apparently.
     
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    not going to the gym for 4 months has taken its toll on my shoulders. and neck.

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    Wow! What fun!

    Glad to see not much has changed during my vacation. I've occasionally checked the interwebz and breezed by WAYWRN for the past three weeks - ya'll are looking sharp! :D

    As for me - today not only do I look wonderful but I also smell like DerekS!
     
  18. jj-moody

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    My 'complaints' have nothing to do with criticism per se, but, rather critiques that are vacuous. I take issue with people who make flimsy criticisms and then do not care to offer suggestions or even elaborate on the critique. I've read several meaningless critiques that have no bearing in reality, and, unfortunately, are given undue consideration by dopey eyed undereducated sycophants who nod unthinkingly. If you have a real critique then it should, by virtue of its sincerity and insight, be able to elevate the style of the person in question or at least expose mistakes. How is this done by claiming a chest is 'very puffed out'. If I can't see it, then something must be amiss with your criticism (especially since it is not just puffed out but very puffed out).

    I do not really disagree with you about the front balance comment. And of course it is appropriate to talk about what you like and don't. My own surprise with people talking about how good Lufty's fits are stems from being accustomed to having my suits and the like made for me. Bespoke clothing and lufty's fits run counter to each other, so I am inclined to say that spoo is better dressed than lufty, even if spoo wore garish versace cufflinks once. BTW lufty's fits do not look like they are pulling at the waist because we can hardly see a waist with such a boxy silhouette. I don't know if spoo's outfits are 'pulling' at the waist, perhaps it is an issue of semantics. Regardless, one has to be accountable for the criticisms they make or else you are no better than iammatt. He just says things.
     
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    I don't like the socks for two reasons: because they're more or less "smooth", texture-wise, which looks a bit cheap/default, in my eyes, especially after they've been washed a few times and (probably) start to pill. I'm not saying they are cheap (or pilling); they're probably not.

    The second reason is that the matching is a bit obvious, because of the colour. I wouldn't have the same "problem" with blue/grey/brown (you know: my colour trio...) matching. Navy is – almost – always good, I like the dark colour with the dark tie, and it's a subtle reference to the blue shirt, if you will.

    It's not a big deal though, after all, when do you see the combination of socks with the top part of an outfit IRL as clearly as you see here in the pics? Maybe when you're sitting across someone in an easy chair and he has his foot on the other knee (if you know what I mean); then tie/shirt/PS are close to the socks and you can actually see the texture/weave of the socks and the combination of the colours, but other than that...

    The first thought that came to mind when I saw the pictures was: that looks very nice, Spoo, and for me that's the most important thing. Sometimes when I have that impression and start "analyzing" after that, I see things I don't like, but my overall positive impression remains. Other times I see something "meh", start analyzing it and find out it's actually all good, but again the first impression remains. In short: my eyes are more important than my brains, when looking at clothes.
     
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