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HOF: What Are You Wearing Right Now - Part III

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr.K, Mar 25, 2011.

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    Master-Classter: Thank you. The socks are absolutely the weak point of this rig, but they were clean, which made me forgive them a number of their sins.

    stitches, here's my problem with that rig: the contrast is mostly in hue, not in saturation or lightness. There's just not enough contrast for me. To demonstrate, here's the pic in black and white. Tie and shirt look kind of muddy together. I would have been fine with a lighter blue shirt in this rig, though the right stripe would be amazing.

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    I am like a sloppy kid! Keep screwing up the knot again and again! I gotta get back to the basics. Can't even tie a four-in-hand knot properly. This is a joke.
     
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    Apparently someone else deals with color in cylindrical coordinates.
     
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    Spot on & exactly what I was getting at; the shirt/tie combo is good. It just needs the right conservative suit to set it off perfectly. As mktitsworth says later, these kind of somewhat leery English shirt combos are now a little outside the forum's preferences, but I think it definitely still has a place. Nice to see that kind of combo here.

    stitchy - I actually quite like the colours in jacket/tie/shirt combination. It reminds me a little bit of some 80s Armani colour combinations, esp. the shirt/tie.
     
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    interesting. i personally have never been one for black and white, those transformations just dont do it for me. oh well. but i do agree the shirt and tie are not ideal. not because of teh gray scale, but because of how they actually look in their irl colors. still, i think its ok, certainly not bad, imo. i tried a lighter blue btw, but it ended up looking almost exactly the same as the tie. instead of "muddy" it was very "matchey." ill try this again, exactly the same, but with a stripe. maybe in a week or so. thanks!
     
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    I actually just muddle through it (just starting to get serious about shooting color photos, after a few semesters of black-and-white), and had to use google to figure out how I could express what I meant.

    stitches, I think part of the problem is that the tie is a very blue shade of green, which makes it tough to balance with another blue. Maybe a tattersall would help?
     
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    I find HSV/HSL to be a superior method of talking about color to RGB.
     
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    I tend to think of RGB as a subset of hue -- it's kind of a stretch to have a clear conversation about saturation or value in RGB terms. I'm lucky enough to be able to do most of my thinking about color in analog, intuitive terms (I do my digital work in Snapseed, because in Photoshop I look at the values on the sliders, not the image itself), so I can be kind of imprecise.
     
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    i agree completely. its is very pretty turquoise, with nice browns in it. i was not expecting this tie to be so hard to match with a shirt. i dont have any tattersall, nor do i really want any, but i think the lesson is that this tie really needs a shirt with pattern. ill try a stripe next time, maybe a check after that.
     
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    Damn, this +1000!!!!
     
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    It can certainly be done, but it requires a small amount of linear algebra - really all any one needs to know is a little bit about Linear algebra. HSV and RGB are both bases for the three dimensional vector space of colors. RGB is a cartesian coordinate system where as HSV is cylindrical. Each of the three (Red, Green, Blue, or Hue, Saturation, Value) is a component of the vector. Using this, the conversion between the two is pretty easy. The first thing to note is that the two coordinate systems are not oriented in the same way. In HSV, the longitudinal coordinate (Value) is oriented along the line (a,a,a) in the RGB coordinate system. This is to say that if you took all of the colors where red=blue=green, they would lie along the axis defined by the value coordinate. Geometrically, we can think of this as rotating our RGB cube. Taking this to be an axis requires that we give up RGB and have to choose two other axes in the plane perpendicular to V. For Hue, what we do is project the points on our RGB cube representing R, G, and B into the plane, and then measure hue as the angle formed by the line between the origin and our red point and the line between the origin and whatever color we're talking about. Now all we need is saturation, which just turns out to be the distance between our origin, and the point representing our chosen color projected on to our plane with the RGB points.

    Using this, we can translate between one or the other at will and talk about colors using whatever is appropriate at the time.
     
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    :eh:
     
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    Wearing my Arran's today as well, good look
     
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    [/SPOILER] Fantastic all around.
     
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    lolwat?


    :fistbump: PICS!!
     
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    Thanks to those who commented on my post.
     
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