Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr.K, Mar 25, 2011.
^ Very nice, NOBD. Could use something like that in the Solids thread.
thanks to all ya'll for the likes on yesterdays fit, much appreciated. i am humbled.
Casual today. pic kinda crappy, i think the true color is somewhere in the middle.
Stitches, I'm hearing all this talk of improvement...but not all of us have been members of SF since the dinosaurs roamed the Earth. I don't suppose there is any possibility of before pictures to put the whole thing into perspective?
Welp, when i first joined, and for a while thereafter, my choices were often subpar. I may have them somewhere in my photobucket, i did do a lot of deleting. If i can find them, maybe ill post a progression, even though it will be quite embarrassing for me.
EDIT: Fair enough. I had briefly posted an absolutely dead embarrassing picture of me. Just. fucking. awful. I tried very hard not to delete it...but I couldn't stand it. It was that awful. Holdfast and Flying Monkey may have seen it.
If it's actually that embarrassing, don't do it. Having that picture up was a terrible, terrible five minutes for me.
stitchy, something's definitely recently changed for you; the colours are playing much more nicely together over the past couple of weeks.
Rather a busy day to round off an equally busy week. On the go since mid-morning, with assessments all over the county. Still found time to advise a custody sergeant how to tie a bow-tie in preparation for a weekend event of his. I think his request implied approval of my own effort; at the very least, we got out the police station easily...
I am enjoying bending a few MC rules today and revisiting the colours I used to spend a lot of time in, but hopefully in rather more well-fitting and considered way (even if it's not MC approved). Charcoal (well, black) velvet Prada suit, light gray OCBD, skinny black and grey Barney's Co-op wool tie, silver tie bar (+unseen Testoni austerity brogues and black socks).
I think this is a load of horse shit excusing poor taste/style, etc. If someone is in the circus and is dressed like a clown, while it may be appropriate, they are still dressed like a clown.
I have to agree with Ant Honey on this. While conforming to his environment might mitigate SS' culpability somewhat, it doesn't change the fact that the outfit is a mishmash of discordant elements, colors, and textures.
You're totally right. A guy working at The Gap should definitely wear a three piece bespoke suit everyday because he's read on the internet about fancy men's shit.
I'm sorry. I completely forgot that surroundings and circumstance should have no bearing on what you wear. Thank god SF is here to tell me what's objectively right and wrong. Especially when it pertains to what is normal and acceptable in one's work place.
And forget branding or communicating an image. All that marketing bullshit is for not. I mean it's never worked, right? And certainly there are no other companies/stores/organizations out there that try and keep their employees to a similar standard. Just ask Dig. He LOVES wearing a black Dri-Fit polo everyday.
Really I think the only thing completely out of place here is the vest. I think it's forced for sure. However, a pair of Nantucket Reds, a conservative navy blazer and silk tie are far from discordant. The fit (of the jacket) is actually quite nice. And while I won't cosign the pant roll, that again goes with adhering to one's settings.
Regardless, you should be a little more respectful.
well, here is the deal, and ill pontificate for a minute here if you dont mind.
clothing is a very subjective area in many regards. SF has a particular aesthetic it approves of. certainly there is a lot of room in there for different styles, but there is an overall agreement, to a large degree, about what is considered good aesthetic. even between the CBD and dandy crowds, there are a lot of foundational concepts that are pretty much agreed upon. such as color and texture combination......
the majority of people out in the street however, do not view things that way. they also like burberry check ties. i used to have one in a neon-ish green. got more compliments on it from the gen-pop than almost anything i wear now. ill bet most folks irl that see me now think i look "nice," and well put together. but probably also boring, and not "stylish." or "fashion forward."
that being said. the outfits i posted when i first started were more geared towards what most people out there view as fashionable, despite how egregious SF would find it. did i have fits that were all around fail? sure. but i still feel that a lot of them would garner high praise in a different setting, outside of SF.
i took a while for me to move out of that mindset. NOT because SF said it, so it must be true, but because after spending day after day, looking at what the best SFers were putting up, i personally felt that was a better aesthetic. not everyone feels that way. i have people i know that i have shown pics from here that are outstanding, and they simply do not appreciate it. are they wrong? i dont know, depends who you ask. they find a different aesthetic more appealing. and that is their right. i think thats in the constitution or something.
i, however, felt that what i saw here, that was considered good, was better than what i had going on. so i decided to change. it was not easy. i had to buy new things, and learn how to put them together. there was a lot of trial and error, mostly error. and dont forget, you will get plenty of conflicting opinions from very knowledgeable people here, and it can make your head spin trying to figure it all out.
i think there are three important points to remember if you really want to effect change, assuming you find yourself in the camp that wants to make that change.
one, you have to post pics, imo. there is a lot to learn from screwing up. just looking will only get you so far. actually trying to do things, and getting feedback is hugely important.
two, not everyone here is out to help, or are they even capable of doing so. there are a lot of stupid feedback comments that people make just to inflate their egos. you need to learn who is actually trying, and able, to help. DO NOT be afraid to PM. anyone. no matter how big the SF persona, we are all just dudes trying to look good. there are lots of people here who are very generous with their time, and very capable of helping. and when they do, dont be a dick, make sure to express appreciation.
three, do not be a drone. imitation is not the goal. you have your own style and vibe, you need to learn how to tailor that in a way that works. dont be afraid to be yourself. we all make mistakes, sure. even the best here do. but you just have to move past them, and wear something better the next day. learn how to dress, but be true to yourself.
anyhow, that was my experience and that is what i recommend. hope all that helps someone.
thanks man. it turns out, i did learn something! who knew?
love the suit btw.
I know this is too busy--a hodge podge that did not come off the way I intended. Mea culpa! But, it's Friday.
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Wise words from an ever-wiser (and ever-better-dressed) young man!
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