i guess i am clueless as to what about the jackets doesn't work for me. the shoulders are natural, the chest isn't tight or loose. the waist is maybe too tapered but not severe. it's maddening i guess. i wish i could see what you see. i just see myself haha. i guess that is why we post. i wish i had something i could point to and say, yeah, thats it. i like my bb jackets, i wont be tossing them, but i guess.it bums me out. ce la.vie!