Yep, need those too. But really - you dont think the grey worked? I thought the grey with the b/w square and the grey/white stripe seersuckers, it flowed nicely (Nii - you see me, not contrasting there?) Spoo - i agree with the comments about todays fit, particularly the shoes and tie. However since i have commented a few times already on your color coordination issues, i didnt feel it was necessary to pile it on. Like i said the other day, you have all the elements - you just dont put them together very well. I really suggest you check out this color coordination article from Ask Andy: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/C...ordination.htm Mandatory SF bathroom shot: Mid-brown loafers on the dogs. dig the colors Parker. Gorge is lower on this one, right? BTW, the "barrel" comment wasn't meant to refer to your weight. I'm thinner than I've ever been, and I still look a bit barrel-like in my higher-gorge stuff. It's a function of lack of waist suppression or some other such victorian artifice and the high buttoning point making the jacket hang like . . . well, like a barrel. Yeah - i know what you mean ... IMO its the poorest fitting jacket in my wardrobe and your feedback is already consistent with what i know ... so no worries at all. I def appreciated it.