For an extreme whitening affect, I recommend consuming Jello while listening to Jeff Foxworthy on high volume. - B "you might be a redneck, if you wear suede boots in August!" Ed - awesome stuff. I have a pair of those same boots. Love 'em. My new favorites. What tie knot is that out of curiosity? Looks perfect for your ties. thanks, just a FIH, only knot I know.