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HOF: Labels, heels and nail patterns - Secrets to ID the maker

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, Nov 10, 2006.

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  1. yossi

    yossi Well-Known Member

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    This looks like a Belvest label to me, based on what I saw on the first page of this thread. It also looks pretty generic, though. Anybody able to make a more definitive judgment? It was manufactured for "Fred Hayman of Beverly Hills."

    Thanks!

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    capnwes Senior member

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    Yes, that is the same label that is in the Belvest SCs I have found.

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    Does it have a label similar to this one too???
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  3. Brianpore

    Brianpore B&S (BS) ambassador-in-chief

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    [Oops; wrong thread]
     
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    capnwes Senior member

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    Anything look familiar here?

    Nevermind, it's right there in front of me - Redaelli

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  7. VLSI

    VLSI Senior member

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    Middle tag looks super familiar.
     
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    Also Redaelli....
     


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    Does this label ring any bells? Couldn't find much info on "Sartorie Riunite". The brand's tag on the jacket has been removed, too, which doesn't help matters…

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    Made in England Alan McAfee balmorals from the Knightsbridge collection. Always had these markings down as C&J but recently seen a very similar boot, differently branded, and listed as Church's.

    I'm still thinking C&J but can anyone confirm or otherwise? Cheers!

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  11. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Alan McAfee was a bespoke shoemaker in London's Dover Street (I believe). They also had several shops across town (Knightsbridge, Bond Street, Aquascutum) that sold an extensive range of ready-to-wear shoes. McAfee certainly used C&J to make their RTW; maybe other Northampton manufacturers as well, (I have one pair of McAfee loafers left, they are certainly C&J.)

    Church's always prided themselves not to do private label work: they might have never produced for McAfee. Although Church's did buy the McAfee name when the company went under (mid 1980s ?). Church's tried to revive the name in the mid-90s with a McAfee range produced by (then Church-owned) Cheaney. Which obviously was not a success, as the collection was dropped very soon.

    There certainly is a connection between Church's and McAfee, but it might be restricted to Church's holding the rights to the name.
     


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    Cheers for the fast reply!

    I know that they also revived the McAfee-branded 'Knightbridge Collection' for the Cheaney-produced shoes from later on; the earlier, pre-Church's models that I've seen or handled have often had similar markings to the ones above and I've always had them down as C&J. I vaguely remember seeing something somewhere that backed this up (in relation to the specific markings on the inner sides), but can't for the life of me remember where I saw this. What markings do your C&J McAfee loafers have, if you don't mind me asking?

    I handled an old pair of EG-made McAfee shoes a while ago, a version of the model that was later labelled the 'Cardiff' when EG started using place names for their shoes and boots. There was no mistaking the markings on that particular pair...

    I think that Church's sold some of their own shoes for the McAfee label in the States - the hand used to write the shoe designations is instantly recognisable to anyone who's handled older Church's and a lot of them were made on Church's grand old last 73. Not sure if any of these were sold over here though, especially given what you said about Church's not doing private label work. Maybe the stuff done for sale in the US didn't count? Or more likely that, if produced when McAfee was already owned by Church's, they weren't actually private label work?
     




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    Looks like Belvest
     


  14. Brianpore

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    Thanks [​IMG] (from the first page, image below). Looks close enough for me.

    • Belvest

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