HOF: Labels, heels and nail patterns - Secrets to ID the maker

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  1. culverwood

    culverwood Senior member

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    I have a very similar pair by Alfred Sargent which I picked up with the light laces shown on picture 3 but which like you I changed for darker laces unless your camera lies.

    That heel pattern seems to be as my C&Js but I am not sure it is only theirs or if other manufacturers may do a similar pattern as RTW shoes I have from Cleverly and Foster also have had the same pattern.
     
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    does AS always use 2 rows of nails? That's how my Brooks brothers by peal by alfred sargent are.
     
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    Just bought a pair of brown suede semi brogue Cleverley RTWs. I was told that a number of companies and individuals make shoes for the RTW range but the Clevelerley staff declined to say which company in particular makes my shoe. Any ideas from the pictures? I note that the nail pattern is different from that shown at the start of the thread for c&js. In any case a nice looking shoe- the first formal shoes I have bought for a while.
    They look like C&J to me, except for the markings inside the shoe.
     
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    Aha, somehow missed the Japan in the listing and the picture. Okay, how about this then. Similar label, marked Made in Italy.

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    Okay, so now I've also seen this label on Lanvin and Ralph Lauren Black Label (fall 2006 collection). [​IMG]
     
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    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    Okay, so now I've also seen this label on Lanvin and Ralph Lauren Black Label (fall 2006 collection). [​IMG]

    It's sounding more like Corneliani then.
     
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    It's gotta be Corneliani, no?
     
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    Could be. The better stuff I've seen it on has been nice, probably around top corneliani level.
     
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    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    Found out today from an impeachable source that the Lanvin tailored jackets, suits and pants are definitely made by Corneliani.

    I see. Well, some Greek dude bought the one I sold and I told him it's Zegna. Oh well.
     
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    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    This label is stalking me. The latest appearance is in this RLPL Fall '06 jacket:

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    http://cgi.ebay.com/NWT-RALPH-LAUREN...QQcmdZViewItem

    So apparently RLPL is using Corneliani now. Or not?


    Don't know and that is definitely not St. Andrews. BTW, that RLPL jacket is currently in every major discount store in the tri state area for about half what the ebay listing is. Also, to me, it looks worse in person than it does in pics.
     
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    St Andrews only makes the RLPL suits, never the jackets. This has been my experience with Polo as well as information from several sales associates.
     
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    St Andrews only makes the RLPL suits, never the jackets. This has been my experience with Polo as well as information from several sales associates.

    Well, I've sold a lot of St Andrews made RLPL sportcoats. So unless something has changed lately, the sales associates are off base.
     
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    Well, I've sold a lot of St Andrews made RLPL sportcoats. So unless something has changed lately, the sales associates are off base.

    Sales associates are usually wrong, I will take your word for it. If you come across a 42R sold navy blue one let me know, I am in the market.
     
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    "¢ Caraceni

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    (here for Luciano Barbera Collezione Sartoriale -- to be confirmed)



    Ok, i'm pretty sure I saw this suit at the store today. I know for a fact it was Collezioni Sartorial but I swear it was fused. Does that seem right? I thought only the club line was fused. Also, i saw a HF handtailored but I wasn't impressed with the "sharp" shoulder.
     

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