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Hip-hop culture hurting NFL

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by mr monty, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Tell me something I don't know.
    The human head weighs eight pounds?
     
  2. Edward Appleby

    Edward Appleby Senior member

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    The human head weighs eight pounds?

    Ah, I'd forgotten the exact figure. Cheers. Now you can go back to harassing Connie in CE.
     
  3. mizanation

    mizanation Senior member

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    i actually dig this thread!
     
  4. romafan

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    wow..roma you have no idea what you are talking about...
    Think before you speak next time roma.....you got shut down

    Plus you like soccer...gayest sport in the world (where all the italian players dive)

    Honestly, before you talk about the nfl..first look at soccer you douchebag italian meatball


    Yo Vince! I think I know my tastes in music well enough to express an opinion on them. But thanks for caring! [​IMG]
     
  5. life_interrupts

    life_interrupts Senior member

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    We should just chill and CRANK DAT SOULJA BOY![​IMG]
    Souja Boy ain't exactly the type of uplifting needed for this thread. It's a hot cut, regardless of the meaning of the song.
     
  6. romafan

    romafan Senior member

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    Hahahahahaahaha....


    Don't get me wrong: yes, violence and misogyny are all too real, and are certainly legitimate subject matter for songs & stories. I''m well aware the blues are steeped in bloodshed, drugs, sex, etc. - that's why I love them so! [​IMG] I guess I'm splitting hairs, but compare John Lee Hooker, Robert Nighthawk, et al. to these guys:

    Snoop Dogg - 20 Dollars 2 My Name

    Nothing left to do, but buy some shells for my glock
    Why? so I can rob every known dope spot
    I got 19 dollars and 50 cents up in my pocket with what?
    With this automatic rocket
    Gotta have it to pop it, unlock it, and take me up a hostage

    Big Pun - Brave In The Heart

    I'm from where the guns love to introduce theyself
    Reduce your health, little bulletproofs get felt
    Make way for krill, I don't play I spray for real
    Blow your top with the glock, that's my favourite kill
    Blaze your crib with like thirty shots
    I'm already hot, but my last one is with some dirty cops
    Blow a hole through your ribs just for runnin your lips
    The street's a trip; either you deep or you sleep with the fish

    Ludacris - Cry Babies (Oh No)

    I caught him with a blow to the chest
    My hollow put a hole in his vest
    I'm bout to send two to his dome
    Cry babies go home!
    I just bought some new guns my mama said "it ain't worth it"
    But I'm at the shooting range just cause
    practice makes perfect

    .....

    I'd do it if I have to
    bustin caps with this a heat and load it clip up after clip
    I'm packin my gauge, if I feel it
    The glock, the gat, the nine, the heaters
    See I be bustin caps like my amp be bustin speakers
    So how do you figure that Big Boi be scared to blast ya
    You 'posed to be quickest draw, but man, I hail em faster
    1-2-3, you need to think about the future
    Before I shoot your ass and dilute your blood with lead
    From my hollow tips, I'll send you to an early grave



    Notorious BIG - Come On

    I shot dread in the head, took the bread and the landspread
    Lil' Gotti got the shotty to your body
    So don't resist, or you might miss Christmas
    I tote guns, I make number runs
    I give emcees the runs drippin
    when I throw my clip in the AK, I slay from far away
    Everybody hit the DECK

    Does nobody else see the difference? Maybe if Robert Johnson and Charlie Patton had Glocks & AK47s they would have sounded the same as these guys, but I kind of doubt it.

    That right there is some razor-sharp satire. I think we have the next Vonnegut on our hands.

    Sorry Edward A. - I was just having fun w/ Fuuma and took the first scholarly-looking post and tweaked it w/ some soccer stuff. Not poking fun at you or your theories.
     
  7. life_interrupts

    life_interrupts Senior member

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    Your argument is for the advancement of technology making violence easier (an important aspect of John Keegan's argument about why war is more deadly now than 1000 years ago), not the increasing base behavior fantasized about in lyric imagery. America as a whole is a hyper-violent culture and technology has made it easier to kill, but the desire to physically defeat rivals preexisted Cool Herc using two turntables and a microphone.
     
  8. mizanation

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    Does nobody else see the difference? Maybe if Robert Johnson and Charlie Patton had Glocks & AK47s they would have sounded the same as these guys, but I kind of doubt it.

    the old time blues cats were reflecting what was going on in their community.

    same as the rappers today.
     
  9. lakewolf

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    Hip Hop is arguabily the ugliest thing America has produced.... and far away to how mainstream America is

    But it is so omniprescent nowadays that most people around here identify America with Hip Hop culture.
     
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    Hip Hop is arguabily the ugliest thing America has produced.... and far away to how mainstream America is

    But it is so omniprescent nowadays that most people around here identify America with Hip Hop culture.


    Surely you jest!
     
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    O, I see you've learned something since our chat in another thread.

    Good.


    I can't remember...Guns?
     
  12. dsholmes1

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    OK lets get something straight. Hip Hop culture is not violent and is being manifested all across the world. Hip Hop is dead in america. Bboying and DJing are very alive worldwide and being appreciated by people of all nationalities and creeds without violence.

    Rap though has become violent but america itself is ultra-violent. So dont blame rap music. I love how hip-hop has become the scapegoat for all that is wrong with america. Whenever shit goes wrong they always blame hip hop culture first.

    Jason Whitlock is a coon. The uncle tom of sports journalism. He is entitled to his opinion but I def do not agree with him on any level. What those guys do has nothing to do with hip hop culture. It has to do with their own personal levels of maturity. You cannot equate how they act to an entire culture. And to call Chad's antics bojangling is classless. Chad and Larry have a right to bitch and a right to celebrate because they leave it all on the field every Sunday. Notice noone ever questions their dedication to the sport. have any of them ever had any run-ins with the law.

    How can he lump them in with the likes of Tank Johnson, Pac-man Jones, Vick..etc. All of those guys are products of the environment and socioeconomic statuses from childhood. Dog fighting is a southern thing, not hip hop. Collecting guns is american, not hip hop. Being violent and a fucking dumb ass is an I grew up without a father and poor and no one ever disciplined me thing, not hip hop.
    Give me a fucking break will ya.
     
  13. 76classic

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    OK lets get something straight. Hip Hop culture is not violent and is being manifested all across the world. Hip Hop is dead in america. Bboying and DJing are very alive worldwide and being appreciated by people of all nationalities and creeds without violence.

    Rap though has become violent but america itself is ultra-violent. So dont blame rap music. I love how hip-hop has become the scapegoat for all that is wrong with america. Whenever shit goes wrong they always blame hip hop culture first.

    Jason Whitlock is a coon. The uncle tom of sports journalism. He is entitled to his opinion but I def do not agree with him on any level. What those guys do has nothing to do with hip hop culture. It has to do with their own personal levels of maturity. You cannot equate how they act to an entire culture. And to call Chad's antics bojangling is classless. Chad and Larry have a right to bitch and a right to celebrate because they leave it all on the field every Sunday. Notice noone ever questions their dedication to the sport. have any of them ever had any run-ins with the law.

    How can he lump them in with the likes of Tank Johnson, Pac-man Jones, Vick..etc. All of those guys are products of the environment and socioeconomic statuses from childhood. Dog fighting is a southern thing, not hip hop. Collecting guns is american, not hip hop. Being violent and a fucking dumb ass is an I grew up without a father and poor and no one ever disciplined me thing, not hip hop.
    Give me a fucking break will ya.


    Cosign
     
  14. mizanation

    mizanation Senior member

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    i also agree with the man from b-more.
     

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