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High-quality JEANS

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by andrewc, Jan 25, 2007.

  1. blackplatano

    blackplatano Senior member

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    I think it's scientifically proven to be idiotic to argue the quality of one item over another based on photos and second-hand experience.

    It's like saying you prefer chocolate over vanilla not because you've tried it, but because the wind blows east.


    HOrrible example. HORRIBLE.
    You can't distinguish quality just by touch. Touching is the only thing you can't do from looking at jeans. Last time i checked, tasting, smelling or hearing denim wasn't useful. Therefore touching and looking is the only thing you can do to distinguish quality. Touching can only tell you how it feels. THerfore looking can tell you everything else. Since you can see everything in pictures. YOU ARE WRONGGGG
     
  2. whodini

    whodini Senior member

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    You can look at photos of engine parts all day long. Will that tell you how a car performs?

    I think you need to stick to Kewan's advice.
     
  3. blackplatano

    blackplatano Senior member

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    You can look at photos of engine parts all day long. Will that tell you how a car performs?

    I think you need to stick to Kewan's advice.


    Yea but we are talking about JEANS not cars. Man you suck at giving examples.

    If quality can not be distinshed from pictures then half the threads on SF are worthless.
     
  4. blackplatano

    blackplatano Senior member

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    Stop posting already.

    Who are you? lol
     
  5. whacked

    whacked Senior member

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    Denim and construction. You can rave about the fit, but the actual quality doesn't leave me breathless. The indigo doesn't seem top notch since they seem to fade too quickly (from the pics i've seen).

    You can't distinguish quality just by touch. Touching is the only thing you can't do from looking at jeans.

    Uhhmmm.. what's your point again?
     
  6. blackplatano

    blackplatano Senior member

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    If you quoted the whole thing you might get it.
     
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    savage Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    you guys went from comprehendable to bonkers
     
  8. Bandwagonesque

    Bandwagonesque Senior member

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    Continue this discussion at supertrash.
     
  9. whodini

    whodini Senior member

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    Congrats on being the first person I block on here. Nice knowing you.
     
  10. blackplatano

    blackplatano Senior member

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    I wish i could say the samething about you dickhead.
     
  11. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Okay, it's been a long day, so I'm going to have the last word here. Anymore insulting one another over such an asinine point is going to get someone a week in the can. I don't care who is right and who is wrong.

    I don't know why Black Platano would dismiss Ande's jeans, seeing that he has no firsthand knowledge of them, nor do I see why Cheap would say that they are a better deal than APCs, since, to my knowledge, Cheap doesn't own nor has ever worn in a pair of APCs. Only someone like Drizzt, who owns both pairs of Ande Whalls and APCs, is at all qualified to really judge. Normally, I would say that someone who has carefully inspected both, but in this case, I'd have to say own at least the Ande Whall's, since they are custom made and do not have any retail distribution, AFAIK.

    APC jeans are generally accepted to be a very good entry level jean. The denim is extremely durable, the designs are quite classic, and the construction and trims are good. That being said, there are other jeans that are far superior to them in any or all of these aspects, but they are generally considerably more expensive.

    I have no experience with Ande Whall's jeans, so I can't comment on either the fit, the materials, or the construction. There are a number of models, and members with very different body types have been happy with the fit of different models, so I expect that the fit would be quite reasonable. I cannot comment on either the construction nor the denim or trims used. I personally want to buy a pair of Ande's jeans. My only reservation is the denim quality. "Very dark" and 14.5 ounces says very little to me. I know that Ande has posted elsewhere that he has a regular supplier now, but I would really like to feel a swatch of the denim before ordering a pair. Pictures are nice, but things like tightness of the weave or quality of the yarn is, imo, impossible to convey over pictures on the internet.
     
  12. blackplatano

    blackplatano Senior member

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    I wouldn't say i dismiss them. I even suggested SuFu did a ande contest a while back. But, Im not convinced that they are worth $40 more than APCs. That's all.
     
  13. poly800rock

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    i really liked the transient denim he had, the real streaky one diamonds has on SF.
     
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    i really liked the transient denim he had, the real streaky one diamonds has on SF.

    +1. Those look amazing.
     
  15. whodini

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    +1. Those look amazing.
    +1.
     
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    +1. Those look amazing.

    The fabric looks very similar to a Japanese quality I have from Kuroki.

    Now that I can't get a OG pair of Samurais I might give Ande's jeans a shot.
     
  17. knucks

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    all I can say is that a rivet fell THE FUCK OFF my coin pocket on the NS..
     
  18. drizzt3117

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    Ok, so here goes:

    I own two pairs of APC Rescues and one pair of APC New Standards and have had them for about six months. I also own a pair of AW Cougars. IMHO you can't compare these two pairs of jeans. The APC jeans are certainly nice, the rescues are one of my favorite pairs of jeans for a nice comfy fit, but they aren't as nice as the AWs. The quality of the denim is not nearly as good in my opinion.

    The APCs have tightly woven denim that is a nice color and produces nice fades, but it's not as nice to my touch as the AW denim. AW jeans also have much more detailing. such as contrast stitching and the attention to detail like triple stitching on the hem and lack of any random loose strings or imperfections in the denim because they are hand made and not factory made with low quality control.

    Also, in terms of hardware, AW's choices are top notch, while APCs are certainly not terrible, but not really anything to write home about. They certainly don't have the solidity and obvious quality of something like 5EP, while AW jeans are roughly comparable with 5EP IMO.

    Finally, there's the more important issue of fit, and while APC jeans are certainly not terrible in that regard, certainly for me, the AW Cougar has a much better fit than the APC equivalent (Rescue) Others will have to comment on the relative fit of the Grifter to the New Standard as I don't own a pair.

    Personally I think AW jeans are a better value than APC even at Peasant's price of $98 shipped. That's just my $0.02.
     
  19. whodini

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    Peasant's selling APC cheaper than denimbar?
     
  20. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    Peasant's selling APC cheaper than denimbar?

    It's some sort of sale. I bought a pair for $98 a few weeks ago.
     

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