Howdy all. I apologize for the new handle. Two times over the years I have tried making a"unique" forum Â handle and both Â times now I have ended up making new ones. SO- I dedicated one specific mail box Â and two like sounding types of forum names from now on. You now know the state of the village idiot since my last posts those months back. (Warm smile> I hope all is well with you gents, both seasoned, and new to the forums. Â ( Gee mom, no specific tome length emails to A. Harris or Carlo Franco for a change because I forgot my log in name and email address used ... btw Thank you two gentlemen EVER SO MUCH for tolerating me ) Â Would some of you fine gentleman please explain to me the relationship of Hickey Freeman - Hart Schaffner and Marx ( gold trumpeter- standard H.S.M. and the micron 2000 H.S.M. )Â and Jack Victor as far as relationship and relative quaility compared to the others please? No need to go into the lesser companies unless I am missing a major one in comparative quaility. Â I realize all ( or I am of the understanding, all) are owned by a parent corp ( Hart ). But I understand that Hickey no longer makes full canvas floating jackets ( unless custom order bespoke) so that would put their offerings in the same class as the Gold Trumpeter now,would it not? Too, Jack Victor is the Canadian side of Hart. I know from seeing personally that all 3 have suit offerings of the EXACT same ( appearing to my examination anyway) super 110s material in at least two suit offereings and/or pant offering I know of. Â SO what IS th quaility difference in suits or sportcoats or pant made today by these companies. I assume the fabric is supplied by the parent company since all 3 offer the exactsame fabric on some suits.(?) Where I get confused is with the differences in quailty. For example i have some Canadian made Jack Victor slacks ( I think Black label but I may be wrong. I know it is above the standard line) that I feel is equal or dang close in quaility to Hart Shcaffner and Marx Gold Trumpeter pant though made slightly different and when found on sale a heck of a lot less in price. The Jack Vistor are super 130's for what its worth. I realize that doesnt automatically mean quaility tailoring . I am not overly familar with the different lines of Hickey Freeman. I know they have the bespoke line. The Canterbury collection- the boardroom collection and I have seen the Hickey Freeman collection. Possibly one or tow other lines that escapes me at present. Â By personal comparison- I know my "made to measure" Gold Trumpeters seem to be of better quaility than the standard "Hickey Freeman Collection" line and,on minor inspection,better than or at least equal to the hickey "Boardroon Collection." In my Demographic area the Gold Trumpeter is a couple hundred less in retail price as well. Any explanation of comparison or even enlightenment of a more detailed corporate relationship would be GREATLY appretiated. It would also help when shopping on EBay . Thanks in advance good sirs. I tried searching but didnt really find the answers I was looking for. Respectfully, Â John G. P.S>> Please settle a disagreement among a friend and myself. Is " Hickey Freeman" Â and "H. Freeman of Philadelphia " (or H. Freeman and Son of Philadelphia ) the same company?