I bought these used (worn twice). They have only a little creasing, and the leather still looks nice and bright. Plenty of time to wear and darken them! I can ship these in the original box with both styles of laces. Price is $300 + $20 shipping on these. Just looking to get back what I paid for these. Full disclosure, I'm pretty new around here. That said, my reddit username is nareshiyengar and I'm very involved in the goodyearwelt and malefashionadvice communities and can provide any needed references. Also, I'll conduct the sale through a PayPal invoice which will provide you with protection!