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Helvetica

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by shoreman1782, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. shoreman1782

    shoreman1782 Senior member

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    I checked out the film Helvetica last night. It's about, uh, Helvetica, the typeface (which, I'll note, is not an option is styleforum's current font arsenal).

    Very entertaining, especially if you're into design or just work with marketing or published textual materials at all. The film gives a history of the typeface, hundreds of examples of its use over the years, and GREAT interviews with graphic designers and typeface designers, who are overwhelmingly passionate and informative. Interviewees include Wim Crouwel, David Carson, Massimo Vignelli, and some pretty cool young designers.

    Check it out if there's a screening near you; DVD is due out this fall.
     
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    I need to see this and get it for my design /art film collection.
    Last two documentaries like this that I saw were on Buckminster Fuller and Henry Darger.
     
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    The idea of a movie about fonts sounds both inconceivably dull, and in spite(or because) of that, somewhat intriguing.

    Maybe I'll download it.
     
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    You should also check out the book "Thinking with Type" by Ellen Lupton. Fonts have lived very interesting lives.

    --Andre
     
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    I personally prefer Centaur (which is the font designed for the Metropolitan Museum of Art and not release to the general public after more than a decade after it was created).

    I have to check this out; I'm somewhat of a typophile.

    Jon.
     
  7. Brian SD

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    I enjoyed the film quite a bit, not because I like the Helvetica font (which I don't, it's over used and imo, uninsipired), but because the interviews with the designers are great, and there's not a lot of quality film out there about graphic design.
     
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    I enjoyed the film quite a bit, not because I like the Helvetica font (which I don't, it's over used and imo, uninsipired), but because the interviews with the designers are great, and there's not a lot of quality film out there about graphic design.

    I just saw this and ordered it for my collection.
    It renewed my admiration for this typeface. I think the movie helps to put a humanity to what is ordinarily percieved to be a humanless typeface.
    Brian is right, there's not alot of good film on graphic design. I liked this alot, but it is probably for a limited audience in some respects.

    Though not about graphic design, I really like "My Architect" by Louis Kahn's son.
     
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    I downloaded it yesterday, so I'll watch it during the weekend and I'll post my impressions.

    Jon.
     
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    I enjoyed the film quite a bit, not because I like the Helvetica font (which I don't, it's over used and imo, uninsipired), but because the interviews with the designers are great, and there's not a lot of quality film out there about graphic design.

    Why would there be? [​IMG]

    I can't believe you guys are watching movies about fonts..... [​IMG]
     
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    Why would there be? [​IMG]

    I can't believe you guys are watching movies about fonts..... [​IMG]


    How do you know if the movie is good or not until you watch it?

    Jon.
     
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    How do you know if the movie is good or not until you watch it?

    Jon.


    Some things are of no interest to me. Movies about typefaces number among them. [​IMG]
     
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    Some things are of no interest to me. Movies about typefaces number among them. [​IMG]

    So why post about it?
     
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    So why post about it?

    Bingo.

    Jon.
     
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    I just saw this and ordered it for my collection.
    It renewed my admiration for this typeface. I think the movie helps to put a humanity to what is ordinarily percieved to be a humanless typeface.
    Brian is right, there's not alot of good film on graphic design. I liked this alot, but it is probably for a limited audience in some respects.

    Though not about graphic design, I really like "My Architect" by Louis Kahn's son.


    Hmm.. I agree, of course if someone else were to say that it's a bad or boring font I'd tell them it's not - in many respects it's probably the best-crafted sans serif font in wide use. The problem is the wide usage. Nearly everything these days that's designed with the intention of looking "designy" uses Helvetica, and IMO it loses a lot of its luster over that. Nimbus is built around a similar aesthetic, but IMO, is a bit more unique, and looks quite good compressed.
     
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    Hmm.. I agree, of course if someone else were to say that it's a bad or boring font I'd tell them it's not - in many respects it's probably the best-crafted sans serif font in wide use. The problem is the wide usage. Nearly everything these days that's designed with the intention of looking "designy" uses Helvetica, and IMO it loses a lot of its luster over that. Nimbus is built around a similar aesthetic, but IMO, is a bit more unique, and looks quite good compressed.

    I like it for the very reason you don't. I completely understand where you're coming from and don't disagree. I like Helvetica for all of its associations to the heyday of modern design. Today design seems to have a shelf life of about 10 minutes, Helvetica is indeed a bit long in the tooth.

    This may draw flak from many, but I've always thought Bodoni to be a very elegant face. And if you ever see some of the original drawings by Eric Gill for Gill Sans, they are very cool. I'd love to own one.
     
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    I've been trying to acquire typography related art for a while. I think a nicely laid out specimen would be cool.
     
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    I just saw some Wassily chairs in chartreuse leather that would look great paired with this on the wall. (Eric Gill, Gill Sans)
     
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    Helvetica, schmelvitca. I've decided to start posting in nothing but Comic Sans.
     
  20. Kent Wang

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    I just saw some Wassily chairs in chartreuse leather that would look great paired with this on the wall. (Eric Gill, Gill Sans)
    Where can I get a copy of this?
     

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