Help with pants & shoes

[Trebis]

Good morning everybody, I'd like to recieve few advices regarding the lower part of my "most formal" outfits.
After a long process I cut out the idea of Tuxedo and suits, I'm left with :

Navy Hopsack blazer, 2 buttons single breasted.
2 popelin shirts, white and light blue
2 silk ties, burgundy and dark green with some texture

I want to find out a minimal yet effective combination for the bottom : notice that I will wear this sort of outfits only for pleasure (no strict rules) and probably 2 times a month maximum.

I was wondering if a pair of black cap toe Oxford paired with chinos (medium grey, medium brown and Beijing) is gonna enhance the formality of the outfit or is it gonna make a clash.

Thank you in advance!

 

[ThomGault]

I was wondering if a pair of black cap toe Oxford paired with chinos (medium grey, medium brown and Beijing) is gonna enhance the formality of the outfit or is it gonna make a clash.

Black captoe shoes don't match chinos; they should be paired with proper trousers. For chinos, try brown derbies or loafers. Maybe merlot.

 

[Trebis]

Black captoe shoes don't match chinos; they should be paired with proper trousers. For chinos, try brown derbies or loafers. Maybe merlot.

Thanks for your reply, sir.

I'm not a fan of derbies if i have to be honest.
If i keep the oxford shoes, but go for a dark brown do you think it's acceptable in your opinion?
Otherwise i would go with a brown double monk

 

[ThomGault]

If i keep the oxford shoes, but go for a dark brown do you think it's acceptable in your opinion?

I wouldn't, no. Chinos are basically a single step in formality above jeans, and while plain captoes aren't the pinnacle of formality, I'd pair them with only proper wool trousers.
Could you do it? Sure, and probably some people do. But it's suboptimal.

 

[Trebis]

I wouldn't, no. Chinos are basically a single step in formality above jeans, and while plain captoes aren't the pinnacle of formality, I'd pair them with only proper wool trousers.
Could you do it? Sure, and probably some people do. But it's suboptimal.

Thanks for your opinion, Sir!
My problem is that i feel the urge to make reasonable purchases, trying to buy pieces of clothes that i can wear in many outfits.
I haven't found yet a pair of wool trousers i would consider wearing without a jacket!
I also dislike Courdoroy pants.
May i ask you to kindly suggest me some sort of fabric for trousers that may be viable for oxfords and blazer but will be casual enough to be worn with a sweater and subtle sneakers?

 

[ThomGault]

May i ask you to kindly suggest me some sort of fabric for trousers that may be viable for oxfords and blazer but will be casual enough to be worn with a sweater and subtle sneakers?

Can you recommend a car that gets 60 mpg and 2.5 second 0-60? No? That's because they're competing priorities. And clothes have competing priorities, too. The point of formal clothes is that they ARENT casual clothes. Trousers that match a blazer will not also match sneakers. I applaud your desire for a minimal wardrobe, but one must know ones limits, and mixing extremes in the formality spectrum is one such limit. Depending on your needs, buy a few pairs of trousers, a few pairs of jeans, a few pairs of chinos, and wear them appropriately.

 

[Trebis]

Can you recommend a car that gets 60 mpg and 2.5 second 0-60? No? That's because they're competing priorities. And clothes have competing priorities, too. The point of formal clothes is that they ARENT casual clothes. Trousers that match a blazer will not also match sneakers. I applaud your desire for a minimal wardrobe, but one must know ones limits, and mixing extremes in the formality spectrum is one such limit. Depending on your needs, buy a few pairs of trousers, a few pairs of jeans, a few pairs of chinos, and wear them appropriately.

Understood sir, thanks for your kind replies. Will try to work around the situation!

 

[Trebis]

Good morning again!

I think I found the right way to solve my issue:

I will find a pair of derby that I like. I found one by Carmina, bit too expensive but it shows that it is possible to make a derby thar fits my taste.

Now I could choose to have them in black or dark brown : both ways, I've found different shades of chinos I had not considered in the first place : besides grey, there are several shades of beige, tan, sand, cream, light brown, taupe etc that could work well with the rest of the outfit, not clashing with anything and still provide enough differentiation