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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by MilanoStyle, Mar 1, 2005.

  1. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    I worked with someone who was previously in charge of a major consumer products company's Asian operations, and one of the brands that they managed was Ray-ban. He went into a boutique in Shanghai and saw replicas that were identical to their current products (which were manufactured in China) Obviously since they had the specifications they just made more than Ray-ban asked for and sold the others as "replicas" even though they were basically originals. They went as far as designing THEIR OWN Ray-ban sunglasses that were completely unique, and selling them in the same boutique, of course, all made with the same materials as the Ray-ban glasses, and sold for a fraction of the price.
     


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    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    I think it'd be hard, especially if you were telling them you wanted to sell them on ebay/internet for a discount... why cannibalize their own boutique sales?
     


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    (LA Guy @ Mar. 01 2005,13:30) I stand corrected. I suppose with a merchant account you might be able to persuade Seven and True Religion to sell to you.
    I think it'd be hard, especially if you were telling them you wanted to sell them on ebay/internet for a discount... why cannibalize their own boutique sales?
    Because it would be old stock, I assume, and since it would be a different product than what they sell at dept. stores/boutiques it wouldn't be a threat to their business. From what I've seen, there are two kinds of shoppers: those who always buy at full retail, or those who always buy at a discount, and they don't cross over much.
     


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    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    (drizzt3117 @ Mar. 01 2005,13:35)
    I stand corrected. I suppose with a merchant account you might be able to persuade Seven and True Religion to sell to you.
    I think it'd be hard, especially if you were telling them you wanted to sell them on ebay/internet for a discount... why cannibalize their own boutique sales?
    Because it would be old stock, I assume, and since it would be a different product than what they sell at dept. stores/boutiques it wouldn't be a threat to their business. From what I've seen, there are two kinds of shoppers: those who always buy at full retail, or those who always buy at a discount, and they don't cross over much.
    Brian, I think we're not talking about the same thing and don't think we disagree. Certainly I think it'd be possible to buy Seven/True Religion from department stores and boutiques who want to close out old stock. However, I don't think it'd be easy to get a deal like Active Endeavors or e-luxury who sells new stock PDC/Seven online (albeit at not a large discount) and absolutely impossible to get a deal in which you'd be able to sell new stock online.
     


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    I see. I heard eBay and I assumed it would be the old-stock/factory seconds thing.
     


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    i hope no one on here goes into selling counterfeits, which is illegal and subject to seizure and all that, or even replicas, which falls into the legal realm of "passing-off", whereby you're passing off a replica as the real thing and therefore confusing the consumer which in turn is illegal as well

    as for eluxury, it's wholely owned by LVMH, hence their own discount on-line store, so to speak

    and i have to agree with what i think BrianSD said, that for example, the discounted gucci goods sold by ashford isn't going to be the same goods a gucci boutique is selling with the possible exception of samples
     


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    hermes,

    actually that's not true. The classic "pouchette" Gucci bag, was sold on Ashford, and in their boutiques, and the MV-519, 505, and 515 bags from Prada are/were sold on Ashford and in the boutiques.
     


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    On another note, is eLuxury discounted? I'm just browsing the LV stuff and I can't seem to find any discounted prices. If not, I cant see why people would utilize it, I think the best reason to pay full retail is to receive the service and experience of luxury shopping.
     


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    eluxury is not discounted, it's full price. I imagine the reason you'd want to order is if you don't have a LV boutique in your city, or if they don't have what you're looking for in stock.
     


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    You mean _you_ haven't ordered the $18,000 steamer trunk online yet?
     


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    well drizz, it looks like some of the items are current and you are correct, however, my wife is looking at the site and basically saying that there is a lot of 'previous years' stuff  more than any of the current bags

    what i find most interesting is their disclaimer that although the goods are 'genuine' they are being sold outside of the manufacturer's authorized distribution channel which means that if you have a beef about the goods, you can't go to prada and gucci and complain about it, you can only deal with ashford which has a nice limitation in their liability as stated in the legalese part of their site which you of course automatically agree to be bound by when you buy something from their site

    caveat emptor

    and eluxury does have some sales thus discounting, albeit not on the LV goods
     


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    This is true, I've bought a lot of Prada bags and a few Gucci ones from Ashford w/o issues though, and their return policy is great.
     


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    Hedi's Watch Check out this aesthetically pleasing number, and then look at the price, and then look at the part that says, "Equipped with the finest Swiss-made Quartz movement"
     


  14. LA Guy

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    Places like Loehmann's must also have deals with manufacturers for some goods. The classic Fendi Baguette, for example, which, to my eye, doesn't change from season to season, can always be found there for about $100 less than at a specialty store or boutique.
     


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    Ok Ok ..

    I'll stick with selling runners then ..
     


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