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help on buying suits.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by el rojo, Sep 16, 2006.

  1. el rojo

    el rojo Member

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    i dont know why these type of questions are taboo on sF. but i need help selecting a suit. i need it for model united nations in about three weeks, and ebay is really the only place i can get suits, as i live in okinawa japan.

    anyways, im what you would call a noob with suits. ive found these three suits that look as if they fit me, but i dont know which to pick. which of these seems more appropriate:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    again im sorry as i imagine this post might be annoying to some. but please. any opinion will help. and if you can, a suggestion on shirt, tie, etc. will also help.
     
  2. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Nice selections, El Rojo. A couple thoughts for you:

    The suits are all tagged the same size, but there's a significant amount of sizing difference in them. One has a 17 inch shoulder, while another has an 18.5 inch shoulder. I'm usually a 38-39R, and I couldn't wear the 17-inch shoulder. Are you sure all the measurements work for you?

    Also, are you sure these would get to Japan in time? I've had items take more than three weeks to show up even within the U.S. Seems like you'd be awfully dependent on the goodwill of the seller and the whims of the postal service, timewise.

    As far as style, will you need the suit for multiple days? All these are fairly memorable. A more sedate suit, particularly a solid, would make it less obvious you're wearing the same suit. Of your selections, I like the navy pinstripe best for this purpose. (A solid is also good for job interviews, funerals, weddings and the like.)

    Beyond that, you might have picked a good time to look for Brioni. EBay has been in a slump for weeks now. That said, the price on these could jump a good bit before all is said and done. (Though it may be the seller has set the opening bid high enough that it will discourage some bidders.)
     
  3. Claudio

    Claudio Well-Known Member

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    All the above sugegstions are very usufull and spot on.

    Why are you buying suits online? Are you on a tight budget? I've never been to Japan but i'm sure Okinawa has alot of decent clothing stores which you could shop from. I'd prefer to purchase an 'ordinary' suit from a decent shop (so you can try it on and see fabric & pattern) rathern than spend 200-300$ online and risk not fitting well.


    Good luck
     
  4. Connemara

    Connemara Senior member

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    Weird, that brown suit fits more like a 38 or even 36. Nice choices though.
     
  5. Mike C.

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    Just be careful with those models. Consider what will look good on your frame. The low stance, strong shoulder look gives me a 80's power suit vibe.
     
  6. NoVaguy

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    i dont know why these type of questions are taboo on sF. but i need help selecting a suit. i need it for model united nations in about three weeks, and ebay is really the only place i can get suits, as i live in okinawa japan.

    anyways, im what you would call a noob with suits. ive found these three suits that look as if they fit me, but i dont know which to pick. which of these seems more appropriate:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    again im sorry as i imagine this post might be annoying to some. but please. any opinion will help. and if you can, a suggestion on shirt, tie, etc. will also help.


    I wouldn't get any of these suits for model UN. get a solid navy blue, charcoal or dark grey suit, a bunch of white and/or blue shirts, and conservative ties and you'll fit right in. other than that, the suits themself are nice, but not really model UN suits.

    if the event is in 3 weeks, i wouldn't ever go the ebay route, because as doc mentioned, getting the suit from the US to okinawa may take up to or over 3 weeks, and alterations could take another 2 or 3 weeks.
     
  7. NoVaguy

    NoVaguy Senior member

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    Just be careful with those models. Consider what will look good on your frame. The low stance, strong shoulder look gives me a 80's power suit vibe.

    emmanuel classy closet uses a lousy angle for their shots - from above. it makes the gorge and buttoning position look lower than it actually is.
     
  8. Jovan

    Jovan Senior member

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    I agree with Claudio. However, with Brioni you are getting a top tier garment with tons of handwork and excellent construction. Beware though, the jackets may have been pinned in the back to make it look like there's more waist. I've never seen a Brioni even worn by James Bond that has that much waist, let alone most Italian suits. I'd personally buy something decent, convenient, and sedate in your town if possible, such as a two button grey or navy. You can always nab a Brioni off eBay too and see if you want to keep it once it arrives, then return the other suit. (Provided you escape Model UN with no stains!)
     
  9. odoreater

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    Provided you escape Model UN with no stains!

    Yeah, I heard those model UN parties get wild. [​IMG]
     
  10. Jovan

    Jovan Senior member

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    Hey, stains come when you least expect them.
     
  11. whoopee

    whoopee Senior member

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    Yeah, I heard those model UN parties get wild. [​IMG]

    One delegate at a MUN summit in my high school soiled his suit with semen while on stage, courtesy of his strategic partner.
     
  12. el rojo

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    wow. wonderful help. im a superfuture native, and we certainly dont give noobs the same treatment.

    anyways, ill try and answer the questions as efficiently as possible.

    first of all, im buying online because i dont speak any japanese, and the language barrier may cause problems. i also happen to be addicted to brioni for some reason. it may be the legacy.

    secondly, time shouldnt be a problem, because the event is actually about a month and a half away. i just said three weeks so i could have a little cushion for any modifications that need to be made. because im in a military base, it only takes a week at most for things to be shipped. and if i pass on these, no other eligible suits may show up within the three weeks.

    lastly, im very sceptical on my measurements. i really dont know how to measure my shoulders, but what i got out of it is about 17 inches or so. because that measurement didnt seem very dependable, i measured a jacket that fit just ok on me and it measured 18.5 iches at the shoulders. i also measured my chest, and got 38 inches. if i add some slack, im pretty sure 40 or 42 iches wont be such a problem.

    also a question just came up, and i mineaswell ask. what parts of a suit can be modified? im pretty sure i can find the answer if i search hard enough, but im also pretty sure that you guys have got the parts memorized.
     
  13. el rojo

    el rojo Member

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    One delegate at a MUN summit in my high school soiled his suit with semen while on stage, courtesy of his strategic partner.
    wait. what? how the hell does something like that happen.
     
  14. whoopee

    whoopee Senior member

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    The way diplomacy often works; she lent him a hand under the table. Incidentally, the school was in the same general region as yours.

    The fit of the shoulders is the priority. Chest and waist can be brought in, and length can be shortened ~1" (or maybe more) without throwing off the balance. Armholes can't really be raised, though they can be eased, so this is another issue to consider.

    The second is the most appropriate, in terms of the cloth. I have one that looks like the exact same fabric as the third, and it's not quite MUN material either. That said, few people really care.
     
  15. el rojo

    el rojo Member

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    The way diplomacy often works; she lent him a hand under the table. Incidentally, the school was in the same general region as yours.

    The fit of the shoulders is the priority. Chest and waist can be brought in, and length can be shortened ~1" (or maybe more) without throwing off the balance. Armholes can't really be raised, though they can be eased, so this is another issue to consider.

    The second is the most appropriate, in terms of the cloth. I have one that looks like the exact same fabric as the third, and it's not quite MUN material either. That said, few people really care.

    ooh. i thought he just randomly exploded. well i guess i have to work on my diplomacy skills.
     
  16. rssmsvc

    rssmsvc Senior member

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    I went to the model U.N. all four years and I don't think you will need anything more than then a well fitting, simple navy or gray suit. Most of the other students wore a navy blazer and pants for the better dressed and just a shirt and tie for the majority. This was the model U.N. in NY.

    Enjoy yourself , don't waste the time worrying about your suit. It was some of the best times I had in school, enjoy it.

    The seller is good, I have purchased suits from them before and they are on the slower side in shipping but honest.
     
  17. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It should be noted that I have had VERY mixed success with this seller. I've bought a number of items from them and appx. 2/3 of the items arrived significantly not as described. Meaning significant flaws such as mothholes etc. that were not noted in the auctions. I think they just do not inspect the items very well before posting. On the other hand, they have never given me any trouble as far as refunding my money goes. But since the items would have to be shipped to Japan and possibly back, you might consider it.
     
  18. el rojo

    el rojo Member

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    NVM. i think i found out.
     
  19. Jovan

    Jovan Senior member

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    Good luck, el rojo.
     

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