Good info everyone, thanks for posting. Alterations will not be an option for me, as I am looking to go a little short by getting a R instead of a L (I am 6'2 and always put into a long although my torso is average length). Unfortunately, most of the cuts that fit me in the shoulders and chest are very short, as in 29/29.5". I dont mind going to a 30.5, but much shorter than that looks weird to my eye. As I said above, I am hoping to pick up a couple used suits that can be altered before stepping up to MTM/bespoke. I am just starting to wear suits, and would like to get used wearing them and let my eye and style mature, per se, before I drop decent money on anything. CousinDonuts: I like you tumblr. Good stuff.