Help me to not make a wrong impression at a carreer event in Finance

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  1. JonathanBauer

    JonathanBauer Member

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    Really cool to hear this from a prof perspective. Thanks for easing my mind on the styling part; the main reason I'm into this, is that the more prestigious events mainly draw people from my age who benefit from old-boys-networks through their families for whom styling etc. is no issue at all. These guys probably have a fine choice of tailor-made suits in their closets. I don't want to look like a total misfit when I'm out there.

    But in the end it should be all about substance - great to have confirmed by two distinct business school professors that in reality this also is the case. I think I'm doing really well on both the substance part. And I think my preparations are alright - I have a look at the latest annual reports to get an idea of company outlook and size, read requirements in job listings to see the required skillsets, read Glassdoor reviews on company culture.

    Now that you two are in this thread, perhaps I can ask you a question. I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty - or in the finance field it would be ramming keys on a keyboard for 10hrs a day for mainly data entry following some pre-defined standard operating procedures. If that's the norm, and you just have to excel in 'production' before you're able to compete for more exciting functions, that's fine to me. I'll work like a machine for the outlook of a well-paying exciting job. However, do I mention that this is my attitude towards work, or is it better to just talk about the company?
     


  2. Veremund

    Veremund Senior member

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    Spelling will help during your career too. ;)
     


  3. WhereNext

    WhereNext Senior member

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    Don't be silly: that's what spiel check is four.

    As for advice in what to say, you'll want to know for yourself first what you want before talking to companies. I realize that sounds obvious, but you'd be surprised how many times I've seen people with the "how much does it pay" question and little else involved in their evaluation (not that pay shouldn't be important!). If you don't know what you're excited about, driven by, looking for, etc., you can't expect them to know what they're getting from you, either.
    Convey that you're a hard worker, for sure, but it's best to do that in the context of their needs, as well. In other words, looking for a job (ideally) is looking for a good fit: they get what they want and you get what you want. Perhaps it doesn't always work out that way, but that's what you should be shooting for, in my opinion.
     


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    I have an opinion that those wearing obviously expensive and tailored clothes may have a disadvantage. They would come across as possibly entitled. Someone who is trying and has put in a good effort to be nicely dressed looks like someone that tries. A person that is trying is very hard to ignore.
    I would love to hear from the professors as to how an overdressed candidate affects them, if at all.
     


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    LOL! :D
     


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    I don't often encounter "overdressed" in terms of someone in a Brioni suit, Lobb shoes and a Rolex. Honestly that's kind of hard to spot in the field, even for someone who reads SF and has an interest in clothes (except for the watch, but I've never seen a student with a Rolex....but I work at a mid tier public school ya know). Its more "damn, that's a nice looking suit", but I'm not sophisticated enough to be able to distinguish among very high end brands just from sight. What I *do* see sometimes is mistakes among young people wearing very nightclub/lounge like suits (think very tight black suit, shimmery purple shirt, solid black tie). Among professionals that doesn't look very good, but I can understand how that could happen to a student who went to H&M or the like to buy a suit. So, that's a bad move but not a fatal flaw. Keep in mind that most professionals are going to be pretty forgiving, we realize that a typical 22 year old guy doesn't have that much knowledge and experience yet. It would be much different, on the other hand, if it was a 30 year old MBA student dressed the same way.

    Oh, but one thing I saw just a few weeks ago at our career fair: please, please remove the suit label from the sleeve of your new suit! I have seen this twice now, once on a suit and once on an overcoat. The cloth label stitched on to the sleeve was left on! I felt really bad for the kid who didn't realize you don't leave those on.
     
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    Would've been a kindness to tell him to remove it or risk looking ridiculous.
     


  8. JonathanBauer

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    Ouch, bold mistake in the thread title, and I'm sure there's more to be found throughout my replies. Thanks for the heads-up, I'll never spell career wrong from now on.. [​IMG] Also I've just subscribed to the Economist, I think (and hope) that reading some well-written articles each week will help to improve my English in terms of vocabulary, grammar, style.

    Great question and response.. Nice input for the thread, perhaps more relevant to students who wonder if they should wear their finest suit at an event for which no dress code is communicated.
     


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    I hate brown shoes with blue!
    Don't listen to anyone who advices them.
    Go with a black/dark blue oxford or devy shoes.

    This is an advice from a guy who directa more than 150 workers.
    Good luck.
     


  10. Caustic Man

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    Interesting how common this is. In fact, it's somewhat of a trend to keep it on in Africa. Not recommending it, of course. [​IMG]

    Brown and blue is fine.
     


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    No it is not!
    It's a really bad taste choice.
    Especiay for a work meeting!!!
     


  12. Caustic Man

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    Sure it is.
     


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    Brown shoes and blue suits are just fine together. No one gives a toss how many people you direct or advices you give.
     


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    Navy suit and brown shoes to a business meeting? That's gross man...
    Where dis you learn to dress? Instagram?
     


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    Where did you learn spelling and grammar?
     


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