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Help Me Prevent People from Being Scammed on eBay

rebel222

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I feel an obligation to prevent parties from being scammed on eBay through a moral obligation and my own self interest (see below). There are currently 2 different pairs of shoes GROSSLY misrepresented on eBay. I am suggesting that everyone send the prepared statements to each seller. Both sellers have been notified of their error and they both sent a response indicating that they are not going to correct the listings. It would be impossible to get eBay to pull the listing because how do they know the details of each shoe. The reply contains the info on the second pair. Each post will describe the misrepresentation, contain an auction link, and have a prepared statement to send to the seller. Maybe we can police this kind of questionable behavior ourselves. I have attempted to make this as simple as possible, so that there will be high participation. First is a pair of Paul Stuart's and the seller claims they are made by Edward Green. Edward Green did make some shoes for Paul Stuart, but not these. This is a prominent seller by the name of geb_999. These shoes are on the 8001 last (Grenson last). They also do no exhibit the EG nail pattern. If you don't know me, I sell lots of rebranded shoes. I am certain that these shoes are made by Grenson. Link to Auction Statement: Hello, I am a member of a large men’s clothing forum with thousands of members. It has been posted on our site that you are misrepresenting these shoes. You have been previously notified that they are not made by Edward Green; however, you still list them as such. I and many other members are requesting that you correct your listing. You are either blatantly lying about the shoes, or you have chosen to make statements without properly researching them. A link to your post with a copy of this message will continue to be posted until you choose to do the proper research and correct your listing. I am sure many of your sales come from members of our site, and your eBay ID will be associated with such lies. This could seriously affect your business. Please take the time to do what is right. Thank you Disclaimer: I do sell re-branded shoes on eBay and here on the forum. I do have an interest in ensuring that shoes are accurately described. I feel that I will loose potential customers if they get screwed only once. I wanted to disclose that I view myself as a competitor to these listings; however, I am dong this more as a way to protect my potential customers instead of making sales.
 

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I've had some problems with geb_999 and have been screwed over by his bad descriptions before. He also refused to refund my money, so I wouldn't trust him.
 

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Originally Posted by rebel222
Second is a pair of Ralph Lauren Loafers. The seller advertises them as Shell Cordovan Darltons. Ralph Lauren Darltons are made in England by Crockett & Jones. The seller replied that maybe RL decided to have them manufactured elsewhere.

This model is clearly still listed as “Made in England” on RL’s website. These are not the Darlton model, and they are not Shell Cordovan.

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Hello,
I am a member of a large men’s clothing forum with thousands of members. It has been posted on our site that you are misrepresenting these shoes. You have been previously notified that they are neither cordovan leather nor are they the Darlton model; however, you still list them as such. I and many other members are requesting that you correct your listing. You are either blatantly lying about the shoes or you have chosen to make statements without properly researching them. A link to your post with a copy of this message will continue to be posted until you choose to do the proper research and correct your listing. Also, your eBay name will be associated with such lies, which can seriously affect your business. Please take the time to do what is right.

Thank you


I'm not an expert on shell cordovan. But from my experience, they sure don't look like shell cordovan.

However, isn't he just saying that the color is "brown shell, cordovan"? Perhaps his description is somewhat deceptive, but I don't think he actually states that the leather itself is shell cordovan, only that it is that color.
 

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I don't think it's that big of a deal. Some sellers refuse to be realistic, they will have to go through the process of having pissed-off buyers demanding refunds, etc, before they learn their lessons. Let him burn.
 

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Originally Posted by rebel222
Hello,
I am a member of a large men's clothing forum with thousands of members. It has been posted on our site that you are misrepresenting these shoes. You have been previously notified that they are made by Edward Green; however, you still list them as such. I and many other members are requesting that you correct your listing. You are either blatantly lying about the shoes, or you have chosen to make statements without properly researching them. A link to your post with a copy of this message will continue to be posted until you choose to do the proper research and correct your listing. I am sure many of your sales come from members of our site, and your eBay ID will be associated with such lies. This could seriously affect your business. Please take the time to do what is right.

Thank you


Are they or are they not?
 

rebel222

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Originally Posted by Tarmac
I don't think it's that big of a deal. Some sellers refuse to be realistic, they will have to go through the process of having pissed-off buyers demanding refunds, etc, before they learn their lessons. Let him burn.

I think its a big deal if a buyer gets them and doesn't know any better. They may not find out until they post a question on here 6 months later.
 

Tarmac

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Originally Posted by nauticagmo
I've had some problems with geb_999 and have been screwed over by his bad descriptions before. He also refused to refund my money, so I wouldn't trust him.

Why didnt you leave negative feedback?
 

TRINI

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Originally Posted by nauticagmo
I've had some problems with geb_999 and have been screwed over by his bad descriptions before. He also refused to refund my money, so I wouldn't trust him.

Originally Posted by Tarmac
Why didnt you leave negative feedback?

I bought a pair of C&Js from him recently and had no issues. Just offering another side.
 

TRINI

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Originally Posted by rebel222
Yeah, but what if you found out that they weren't C&Js???

Then I'd be pissed and leave negative feedback and/or try to get a refund.

I'm just noting that I've had a positive experience with the seller to provide an alternate view to the other poster who'd had a negative one.
 

magogian12345

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Originally Posted by rebel222
I am not saying that this is something that this seller does often, but the fact that he has refused to correct it once brought to his attention shows dishonesty.

Rebel, you should address my question re: seller's claim on the cordovan color.
 

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