So, at the risk of sounding redundant, I am currently in the process of ordering a tuxedo from Indochino and will of course follow up with pictures to see how they did. I purchased the $320 deal for a suit(tux/shirt/tie combo. Unfortunately, the only black bow-tie they have is a pre-tied one, so I plan to purchase my bow-tie elsewhere. I still get a free tie, so I was hoping you guys could help me select one (for use other than my tuxedo, obviously). http://www.indochino.com/collection/Ties Their selection seems a bit meager, but I was looking at these two (I think probably because I'm not always too keen on solid color ties): Are these inherently too ugly or anything? I wish I could get a closer look at the "crest" on the blue one (actually as I type this I just realized it has an "IC" on the crest, which makes me less interested....) The rest are all solid color ties or square-bottom (for lack of knowledge of the proper term) knit ties and I don't like the square style.