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Help Me Determine the Size of My Grenson Masterpieces

Lawman

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Last year I bought a pair of white buck wingtips from a member. They are marked as a size 13D, but ain't no way. I am a size 12.5+ and I cannot even get my feet into them. The measurements are as follows:

1. Tip of toe to back edge of heel: 12.5 inches.

2. Widest point of sole: 4.25 inches.

3. Narrowest point: 3.0 inches

Inside handwritten says: 8133 548 13D

Thanks!
 

gnatty8

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Personally, I have found Grenson Masterpiece to run small. I need to size up at least one full size to make them work for me. I am a 10 1/2D in 90% of shoes, 11D in 10%, and then there's Masterpieces, solid 11 1/2D.
 

Lawman

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What do you think, are these between a U.S. 11.5 and 12?
 

rioni

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My grenson masterpiece run about .5 size large.
 

gnatty8

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Originally Posted by Lawman
What do you think, are these between a U.S. 11.5 and 12?

Judging by the measurements, sounds close..
 

bigbris1

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Lawman, what are your feet like & what sizes in other brands fit snugly?

I was going to post on the other thread that I was poised to purchase those white masterpieces but with the newly found sizing discrepancy maybe it's good I didn't pull the trigger.

FWIW I wear a UK 11.5F in Grenson's 107 last which measure 12 7/8ths long by 4.25 wide. My normal size is between 12.5 & 13D.
 

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