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He got fired because he was better dressed than the Boss?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Young Gentleman, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Senior member

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    No. The quoted section deals with a handbook modifying the at will relationship and creating certain contractual rights (e.g. termination only with cause). There's nothing here mentioning a handbook or anything else that transformed OP's friend's employment from at-will to anything else.
     
  2. jrd617

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    This. You're all getting trolled
     
  3. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm not a lawyer, but if a company can't fire you for wearing clothes it considers ridiculous, that seems quite unfair. On the other end, what if dude was dressed shabbily? Company can't fire him for that either, if it's paying enough where it could reasonably expect the employee to afford something decent?
     
  4. jrd617

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    We're back!

     
  5. New Shoes1

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    It is rare for a company's handbook to create contractual rights that would limit its ability to terminate employees at will. Most handbooks have a disclaimer expressly disavowing the creation of any contractual rights.
     
  6. bourbonbasted

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    The OP's friend is going to be pissed when he gets the bill from this thread. Pretty sure we have accumulated a full day's worth of billing with these discussions.


    And this makes my above statement all the funnier.
     
  7. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

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    I am amazed that so many people have taken this outlandish story seriously.
     
  8. pnutpug

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    Doesn't have to be a great lawsuit. It merely needs to be filed, and there are no shortage of alleged lawyers who would do that. An appearance on Good Morning America et al seals the deal, drawing publicity and a job offer from a firm where taste in dress is appreciated (such places do still exist).

    The lawsuit might be weak (unless a public institution is involved, in which case you'd have a slam-dunk First Amendment issue--yes, the courts have interpreted dress as a manner of expression and therefore protected, particularly in a government setting), but I don't think it would cross the line into frivolous, and winnability is beside the point.

    Even if we're being trolled, it is an interesting question. If he dressed like a slob or smelled or didn't wear any clothes at all, that would be one thing. But, end of the day, anyone who would fire a top performer because he dressed well is an ass, not an asset.
     
  9. UncleCozy

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    "within the rules of the company dress code"

    There is a dress code for the workplace though, and he was given a oral warning that he was in breech of it. True, there is no mention of any publication that would change his at-will employment, but we do not really know at this point if there are any handbooks/publications (I can't find where the OP expressively denies any existance of such a publication), espescially since we aren't in direct contact with the OP's friend.


    Wouldn't it also be hearsay if there hadn't been any formal notice from the boss? Word would go against word if it got to trial, boss could perjure if he is of such character.
     
  10. bourbonbasted

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    In the words of Doc Holiday (if memory serves): "One can only appreciate Allen Edmonds for so long."
     
  11. taxgenius

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    At least in the USA, you can be fired for any reason, as long as it's not an illegal reason. For example, there's nothing illegal about firing all people with green eyes.
     
  12. ColdEyedPugilist

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    That you, Wright / Reev?
     
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  13. ter1413

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    (if this is not a troll)

    OP, your friend is stupid. He does not realize that he can look sharp going biz casual or whatever the dress code was???
     
  14. Mute

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    The boss may be the biggest dick in the world, but he still pays your friend's paycheck. I would have suggested he listen to his boss or get a new job if the demands are truly unreasonable.
     
  15. othertravel

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    Keep in mind the OPs friend is in the EU; their laws are different, particularly when it comes to a human rights complaint.
     
  16. F. Corbera

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    Let me be the first to say that this thread could be a pivotal moment in the history of civil rights.
     
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  17. md2010

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    I would imagine Op is not in a English Speaking country. I don’t want to be rude to OP but this is impossible in First world country as there are many employee rights protection groups formed by the government and unfair dismissal like this would only earn this guy a lot of money in Compenssions.
     
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  18. emc894

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    If a Managing Director or above showed up at my firm in double breasted suits and pocket squares, he would get funny looks and clients would probably think he was too slick. If anyone else did they would be told to go change.

    Your friend is an idiot, why alienate yourself in your bosses eyes?
     
  19. chogall

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    not until green eyes become a disability or a minority.
     
  20. Ingenieur

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    That's not the story the boss told me. Apparently OP's friend was frontin', playing off lined 6-fold ties as 7-fold and was found out. Of course OP will deny this, "knowing" that his friend always wears a genuine 7-fold. Clearly OP, this is a strong relationship, and one you should cherish.
     

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