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He got fired because he was better dressed than the Boss?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Young Gentleman, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. Young Gentleman

    Young Gentleman Member

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    A friend of mine recently got fired even though his performance at work was just fine. He was the best dressed person at the office, in his imposing bespoke double breasted or three piece suits, always wearing a pocket square, a seven fold tie and bespoke shirts from T&A as well as some highly polished Lobb brogues. In fact at meetings clients often confused him with the head of the company and thought that his Boss was merely his assistant.

    Nevertheless his performance was excellent and he signed more contracts than any other employee.

    A few weeks ago his Boss asked him to come see him, made him sit down and told him that he didn't appreciate the way he dressed and that it was making him personally feel uncomfortable.

    Since he was within the rules of the company dress code my friend ignored his Boss' request to dress down and two weeks later he received a letter telling him that he was getting fired, no clear reason was mentioned.


    Now do you think this is fair? Should someone not be able to dress as they please because it hurts some guy's ego?
     
  2. KObalto

    KObalto Senior member

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    This wouldn't have happened if he settled for Brioni and Charvet.
     
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  3. bourbonbasted

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    And also, your friend is an idiot. If your boss says you're too dressed up, you're too dressed up. Is it stupid? Perhaps. But insecurities exist. As do notions of what a company and its employees are trying to communicate with their clothing. Clearly the clients were picking up on what he was trying to communicate with his style of dress just as much as his boss was.
     
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  4. othertravel

    othertravel Senior member

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    Strange situation. Hope it works out for him.
     
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    The guys a prick for firing him over that but if you have a boss or work for someone else I think you have to tow the line. He should have taken on board what was said to him in those two weeks by not doing that he was on a collision course for confrontation.
     
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    Its great to see that Wright is back.
     
  7. Young Gentleman

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    Usually employees are not dressed well enough. In my opinion the Boss should just have started dressing better himself, he certainly had the money to do so.

    If I was a CEO and my employees all turned up in bespoke clothes, charvet ties and what not I'd be very happy I think.
     
  8. KObalto

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    I would cut their salaries.
     
  9. bourbonbasted

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    Bespoke is one thing. I don't think any bosses would object to well-fitting, smart clothes. And I know even less would have any concept of what bespoke actually means. What I do think is your friend is an idiot for wearing polarizing fits like DBs and three pieces when no one else was. I also assume, since you mention him favoring British tailoring, that the fit and silhouette of the looks was quite severe or even intimidating, as many British houses look to replicate a sharp figure and powerful lines.

    Also, I think A LOT of bosses in the world would have serious questions about someone spending so much of their money on clothes (if they were to wear only Saville Row suits). Especially if that person is a younger employee. It begs questions of their money management and then that leads to how you manage the company's money.
     
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  10. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    whose troll account is this?
     
  11. sns23

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    i don't buy it
     
  12. add911_11

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    Perhaps your friend could have an action under the employment law? I am no expert on this but since no clear reason was mentioned, your friend might be able to argued the unjust redundancy and ask court for an injunction?

    Even the employer had asked your friend to dress down, the scope of 'dressing down' is pretty large, I could have claimed wearing a less colourful tie means 'dressing down', while keeping everything else. And really if your friend was a top performer, your boss should really keep a good asset in his company

    Or put it that way, since your friend is good in his job, surely he can use this as a advantage for his future job interview

    That is just my uneducated guess.....

    Or did I put too much time on a troll thread?
     
  13. add911_11

    add911_11 Senior member

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    Really? I would have thought luxury cars/holidays would be more accountable rather than clothes
     
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    pnutpug Senior member

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    Most bosses have bosses. If I were that boss's boss and found out that a top performer got canned for his suits, there'd be a new boss. If the OP's friend is willing to go public, it would make for a great lawsuit--something along First Amendment grounds--that would likely get picked up by the media, resulting in deserved public humiliation for the boss and perhaps a job offer from a more enlightened company.
     
  16. add911_11

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    Exactly, that's what I thought
     
  17. bourbonbasted

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    Well this assumes that his boss has a concept of what the clothes cost. I think if you are spending tens of thousands of dollars a year on suits and don't have the salary or clout to justify doing so, it's on par with wearing expensive watches or driving an expensive car. I will say, however, most bosses would have no idea how much clothes cost. I do, however. Hence why I said "If I were the boss" I would have a problem to a certain level.
     
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    How has the government restricted his speech?
     
  19. SirGrotius

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    Sounds like a weird market-research experiment.
     
  20. bourbonbasted

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    Not quite an apples to apples example, but I'll share an instance of this coming into play:

    My father worked for a very, very large company for over 30 years and worked his way to senior management. On one occasion he was in Las Vegas entertaining clients when one of his employees (a junior level guy making less than $50,000 a year) won big (over $35,000). Now my father was not overly upset with the gambles he took and was actually a bit impressed he was able to secure that much money after starting with only a few hundred bucks. However, when the man walked away from the table he walked directly to a Rolex boutique where he spent all of his winnings on a gaudy Rolex.

    My father was immediately furious with the man and pulled him aside. The guy saw nothing wrong with spending $35,000 on a watch when he was only making $50,000 a year. That kind of decision making reflects incredibly poorly on one's concept of money and ability to make good decisions. It's enough of a gamble that he played up to $35,000, but the fact that he frivolously and immediately spent it all does not bode well for what he will do with the company's money or what image he will reflect on the company when he meets with Clients and is wearing a diamond Presidential.

    Again, not apples to apples, but it needs to be known that what you do with your money and how you allocate discretionary income, as well as the image you are trying to portray, says a lot about who you are and how you think.
     
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