Has JM Weston abandoned the US?

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  1. Icarus

    Icarus Senior member

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    I have no knowlege from the "inside track" at the moment about this, but I will find out about this when I get the chance.

    From experience delays (if this is indeed just a delay) of this kind are most often related to real estate issues as opposed to market issues. Both Lessees and Lessors are not ashamed to renegotiate contracts as the markets change, and failure to come to an agreement causes delays.
     
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    are they worth the churchs to EG price, but victims of SF group-think, or just not worth it?

    They're certainly worth the Church's price. On average better shoes than Church's,
    IMO, As for Green, I am not sure.
     
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    Always wanted to pick up a pair of the 180s -

    I had about 20 pairs in my life...

    Black ,brown ,navy,croc and suede...

    They're great...
     
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    I had about 20 pairs in my life...

    Black ,brown ,navy,croc and suede...

    They're great...


    20 is a large number. Also the word "had" seems to imply you no longer have them.

    Taken at face value, you are either implicitly saying that

    option 1: they dont last
    option2: you were forced to sell them
    option 3: you are over 80 years old or started wearing them at age 4 ; on a short rotation
    option 4: no rotation- you only had westons ever, and you are 50

    go figure
     
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    20 is a large number. Also the word "had" seems to imply you no longer have them.

    Taken at face value, you are either implicitly saying that

    option 1: they dont last
    option2: you were forced to sell them
    option 3: you are over 80 years old or started wearing them at age 4 ; on a short rotation
    option 4: no rotation- you only had westons ever, and you are 50

    go figure


    I'm in my forties and I started buying them in my teens...

    Calculate 2 pairs a year ...The ones lost ,destroyed,stolen and sold...

    The last pair I bought was 8 years ago and I sold them because I started getting my Lobbs..

    They were very solid but not that solid to keep them for 30 years shapeless..
     
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    I had about 20 pairs in my life...

    Black ,brown ,navy,croc and suede...

    They're great...


    The 180s are great and certainly better quality than most of Church's offerings. I think most of the newer Weston models are a bit too "pimp" for my liking, but the latest loafer - the Claridge(?) is very tempting, even if I have sworn off Euro-pointy lasts.

    The triple sole Chasse is an amazing shoe. Brutal-looking but quite a piece of work. According to the sales assistant (and allowing for a sprinkle of sales assistant magic pixie dust) only three people in their factory are capable of making the things and when they retire, adieu la chasse.
     
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    The 180s are great and certainly better quality than most of Church's offerings. I think most of the newer Weston models are a bit too "pimp" for my liking, but the latest loafer - the Claridge(?) is very tempting, even if I have sworn off Euro-pointy lasts.

    The triple sole Chasse is an amazing shoe. Brutal-looking but quite a piece of work. According to the sales assistant (and allowing for a sprinkle of sales assistant magic pixie dust) only three people in their factory are capable of making the things and when they retire, adieu la chasse.


    Tripe semelle ...Beautiful shoes especially in brown.
     
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    The 180s are great and certainly better quality than most of Church's offerings. I think most of the newer Weston models are a bit too "pimp" for my liking, but the latest loafer - the Claridge(?) is very tempting, even if I have sworn off Euro-pointy lasts.

    The triple sole Chasse is an amazing shoe. Brutal-looking but quite a piece of work. According to the sales assistant (and allowing for a sprinkle of sales assistant magic pixie dust) only three people in their factory are capable of making the things and when they retire, adieu la chasse.


    I never owned the Chasse, only the Demi-Chasse. Any idea the main difference between the 2 ?
     
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    Tripe semelle ...Beautiful shoes especially in brown.

    a little on the heavy side though: looks and feel

    forgive my ignorance but where are they made (Weston's in general) and why the french cult- is the brand french owned?
     
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    a little on the heavy side though: looks and feel

    forgive my ignorance but where are they made (Weston's in general) and why the french cult- is the brand french owned?


    It is a French brand with a near to cult status for the well-to-do Parisian teens...

    They used to be the apanage of the jeunesse doree even if now more people are buying theirs shoes and the 180 in particular.

    The golf,chasse,richelieu ,bottines were the main popular models 30 ,20 and even 10 years ago...
     
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    JM Weston closed their only US branch over the summer but originally said that it was only a move and that another store would open later this year on Madison Avenue. There is a space on Madison that it supposed to be JM Weston but it has not opened. The website no longer lists a New York boutique. Does anyone know if Weston plans to open another boutique? They are carried at Saks but the staff rely does not know the product or the sizing and they are also carried by some wonderful stores such as Leffot but the stock is limited. I really liked the dedicated Weston branch and was hoping that it would open again.

    I saw the Weston storefront sign on Madison between 57th & 58th right next to soon-to-be-opened UGG store. It'd be ashamed if Weston decides not to open the relocated store. I guess work places are getting more relax on dress codes, people dress more casual nowadays, and the economy doesn't help. It's real sad.
     
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    a little on the heavy side though: looks and feel

    forgive my ignorance but where are they made (Weston's in general) and why the french cult- is the brand french owned?


    They're made in France, at least for the most part. Some lighter moccasin styles are made in Italy.

    As Lasbar says, they were the fetish shoes for well-off French kids during the sixties-eighties... you come across stories about the rite of passage of your father buying you your first pair of Westons. More recently, they've become very popular with the sapeurs. These guys really know their stuff, one bloke from Senegal gave me a one-hour lecture on Westons when I was in the boutique.
     
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    I never owned the Chasse, only the Demi-Chasse. Any idea the main difference between the 2 ?

    The Weston Chasse is more expensive (€1100, I think). Very thick triple sole which I have heard takes a decade or so to break in ;-). You can see how the stitching differs from the Demi-Chasse here:

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