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Hand lasted vs machine lasted

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Tidybeard, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. furo

    furo Senior member

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    I was wondering why they were ticking

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  2. furo

    furo Senior member

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    What of $700 Vass? Even comes with lasted trees.

    I know: I just blew your mind.


    - B


    Even bigger mind-blower-upper:

    Vass are made in a factory
     
  3. alliswell

    alliswell Senior member

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    Vass are made in a factory

    Interesting word, this 'factory'. It comes from 'manufactory', a place where something is made by hand.
     
  4. apropos

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    Interesting word, this 'factory'. It comes from 'manufactory', a place where something is made by hand.
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  5. poorsod

    poorsod Senior member

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    One version of John Henry - abridged.

     
  6. Aus_MD

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    Interesting word, this 'factory'. It comes from 'manufactory', a place where something is made by hand.

    Nice theory, but lacks any factual basis.
     
  7. imatlas

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    Nice theory, but lacks any factual basis.
    Actually: man·u·fac·to·ry / mænyəˈfæktəri/ [man-yuh-fak-tuh-ree] –noun, plural -ries. Archaic. a factory. Origin: 1610–20; obs. manufact - handmade (< LL manūfact(us); see manus, fact) + -ory2
     
  8. Aus_MD

    Aus_MD Senior member

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    Actually:


    man·u·fac·to·ry
    / mænyəˈfæktəri/ [man-yuh-fak-tuh-ree]
    -noun, plural -ries. Archaic.
    a factory.

    Origin:
    1610-20; obs. manufact - handmade (< LL manūfact(us); see manus, fact) + -ory2




    Yes - I have a dictionary too. What is your point?
     
  9. imatlas

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    Yes - I have a dictionary too. What is your point?
    I have no point, just a fact. Do you have a point?
     
  10. Aus_MD

    Aus_MD Senior member

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    I have no point, just a fact. Do you have a point?

    [​IMG] Factory does not "[come] from 'manufactory'".

    Nice theory, but no basis in fact, actually.
     
  11. imatlas

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    [​IMG] Factory does not "[come] from 'manufactory'".

    Nice theory, but no basis in fact, actually.


    In a strictly literal sense it appears that you are right; factory predates manufactory by some time, but had a rather different meaning until at about the time when manufactory emerges by a compounding of and manufact (handmade) with -ory (place), to mean, depending on context, "something that is made by manual labor", "the production of manufactured goods, and "the place where things are made by hand". Contemporary with this meaning, "factory" evolves from "office for agents (factors), or "real estate office" to come to mean "a place where things are made". It would be rather strange if this change arose spontaneously without any connection to the concurrent evolution of a closely related word.
     
  12. Aus_MD

    Aus_MD Senior member

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    In a strictly literal sense it appears that you are right; factory predates manufactory by some time, but had a rather different meaning until at about the time when manufactory emerges by a compounding of and manufact (handmade) with -ory (place), to mean, depending on context, "something that is made by manual labor", "the production of manufactured goods, and "the place where things are made by hand". Contemporary with this meaning, "factory" evolves from "office for agents (factors), or "real estate office" to come to mean "a place where things are made". It would be rather strange if this change arose spontaneously without any connection to the concurrent evolution of a closely related word.

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    The use of 'factory' as a place for munufacture predates te use of 'manufactory' as a place of manufacture.

     
  13. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    Vass are made in a factory


    Me don't think that right,
    Vass made in small workshop.
    No many machine use in Vass.
     
  14. Tidybeard

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    [​IMG] The use of 'factory' as a place for munufacture predates te use of 'manufactory' as a place of manufacture.
    It should also not be missed that the words "munufacture" and "te" are so futuristic as to have not yet been invented (at least in English), which is impressive. If you're going to be a pedant...... May I just take this opportunity to thank whoever rated my thread one star? It's my first star and has made me feel special. Thanks. Edit - someone just changed it to two stars. I applaud your sense of humour, sir :)
     

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