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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH
How does Lesser compare to Holland & Sherry?

As Manton says, Lesser is more.

Edit: You need to provide some more info as to what type of fabric you are looking for.
 

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Yeah, that makes sense. I am talking as far as who has a better durability per unit of "Super".
 

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH
Yeah, that makes sense. I am talking as far as who has a better durability per unit of "Super".

Not sure I understand this one either.

I don't think I buy any suiting material with a super number advertised. In fact, I think I'm starting to break out as I type.
 

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Originally Posted by Despos
How many Lesser swatches to make a DB Topcoat?

Since when do you consult me on tailoring?

The answer, though, is 360.

But you knew that.


- B
 

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH
Yeah, that makes sense. I am talking as far as who has a better durability per unit of "Super".

I don't think Lesser markets any of their cloth as super anything. Most of the suiting range is perhaps Super 90s.

The allure of Lesser is that their cloths are very well made and particularly well finished.

By the way, I have been hearing for two or three years that Lesser would be issuing a new 16 oz range and a new bunch of 14/15 oz stripes. As of a few months ago, my tailor had no 14/15 oz cloth and only the same, depleted, 16 oz. bunch. Can anyone say whether Lesser has issued any new cloth recently?
 

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I found Lessers to be way too pricey in their formal wear range

My tailor and I agreed on using a a beautiful Dugdale/Thomas Fisher formal cloth for my evening tails. The excellent Lesser choice was 2.5 times the price. I could not justify it
 

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Originally Posted by mafoofan
Noted. I was totally upfront with them, though. When they asked why I couldn't just see my tailor, I explained that he is based in Italy and it's a pain to have Lesser swatches sent from there.
Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH
How does Lesser compare to Holland & Sherry?
Originally Posted by taxgenius69
As Manton says, Lesser is more.
I had no doubt you were honest with them, they ask lots of questions from anyone contacting them the first time around. Just passing on info from disgruntled tailors who have to deal with rationing and company reps that complain about the rising costs of making the books and the number of people asking for them. I was told by H&S that people are submitting vendor apps with made up TaxIDs/EINs just to get their sets of books. As far as how Holland and Sherry stacks up against Lesser or anyone for that matter -- there's no one making better cloth. I not saying they're better or worse than anyone but I know the mills, big and small, new and old, and H&S will always fit into the top bracket whichever way you slice it. Some mills have specialties so maybe Lesser is known for a more hardy (no pun intended) cloth on average but H&S as I've said is at the pinnacle of fine cloth. I've spoken to tailors in Italy, Spain, HK, etc about their favorite cloths and the majority has said Holland+Sherry. I am not endorsing it as fact, but they seem to like the "drape" of English cloth, but specifically HS over others. Again, their words, as there are other cloth makers with equally beautiful drape in my opinion.
 

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Originally Posted by courty
I don't think Lesser markets any of their cloth as super anything. Most of the suiting range is perhaps Super 90s.

The allure of Lesser is that their cloths are very well made and particularly well finished.

By the way, I have been hearing for two or three years that Lesser would be issuing a new 16 oz range and a new bunch of 14/15 oz stripes. As of a few months ago, my tailor had no 14/15 oz cloth and only the same, depleted, 16 oz. bunch. Can anyone say whether Lesser has issued any new cloth recently?

All I know is that some new Lesser cloths (How many I do not know) will become available in October. I have a suit on order from Jones Chalk & Dawson/Meyer & Mortimer, in a grey 1-inch pinstripe 13 oz which only comes out then. It is already in a swatch book, though.
 

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Originally Posted by courty
I don't think Lesser markets any of their cloth as super anything. Most of the suiting range is perhaps Super 90s. The allure of Lesser is that their cloths are very well made and particularly well finished. By the way, I have been hearing for two or three years that Lesser would be issuing a new 16 oz range and a new bunch of 14/15 oz stripes. As of a few months ago, my tailor had no 14/15 oz cloth and only the same, depleted, 16 oz. bunch. Can anyone say whether Lesser has issued any new cloth recently?
They do offer Super X cloths,. They have one with quite a high cashmere content as I recall.
 

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Originally Posted by CMD.EXE
I had no doubt you were honest with them, they ask lots of questions from anyone contacting them the first time around. Just passing on info from disgruntled tailors who have to deal with rationing and company reps that complain about the rising costs of making the books and the number of people asking for them. I was told by H&S that people are submitting vendor apps with made up TaxIDs/EINs just to get their sets of books. As far as how Holland and Sherry stacks up against Lesser or anyone for that matter -- there's no one making better cloth. I not saying they're better or worse than anyone but I know the mills, big and small, new and old, and H&S will always fit into the top bracket whichever way you slice it. Some mills have specialties so maybe Lesser is known for a more hardy (no pun intended) cloth on average but H&S as I've said is at the pinnacle of fine cloth. I've spoken to tailors in Italy, Spain, HK, etc about their favorite cloths and the majority has said Holland+Sherry. I am not endorsing it as fact, but they seem to like the "drape" of English cloth, but specifically HS over others. Again, their words, as there are other cloth makers with equally beautiful drape in my opinion.
There's a lot of truth in this. H&S sell top quality cloth, they carry a large(r) range of cloths which drives up the price of their cloth. It's worth remembering that the merchants use many of the same mills anyway, as some specialise in making certain types of cloth, William Halstead specialise in Mohair for example as did John Foster. There's too much fussing about which merchant to use, and who offers the best cloth.
 

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Originally Posted by George

There's too much fussing about which merchant to use, and who offers the best cloth.


QFT and I love Lesser cloth.

For what it's worth, Despos, if only allowed as single source of cloth, would go with H&S.
 

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Originally Posted by George
There's too much fussing about which merchant to use, and who offers the best cloth.
Originally Posted by aportnoy
For what it's worth, Despos, if only allowed as single source of cloth, would go with H&S.
I have always noticed that people on the various boards find the need to "rank" each and every maker of everything, to determine who is superior to whom. I suppose this attitude does promote the weeding out of bad apples and giving rightful recognition to lesser (no pun intended) known companies. Again, many tailors I've discussed cloth with have had similar sentiments to those of Despos.
 

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Originally Posted by CMD.EXE
I have always noticed that people on the various boards find the need to "rank" each and every maker of everything, to determine who is superior to whom.

I rank this post #6.


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