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Guys giving me a hard time at work because I wear suits all the time

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by slickback, May 11, 2014.

  1. slickback

    slickback Active Member

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    I thought perhaps I should post some pics of me turned down a notch next week, to have before and after pics.
     
  2. zippyh

    zippyh Senior member

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    Make sure you get the urinal in the pics. That's what really makes the WAYW look complete.
     
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  3. archetypal_yuppie

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    Yes. I even went to Whole Foods once. And I have a Mont Blanc pen. And my apatment smells like rich mahogany. I'm clearly a BIG DEAL.


    el oh el. I mean, you're only 24 so I'll cut you some slack, but once you achieve anything near quasi-mini-baller status you'll realize that you don't need to give a fuck about what other people think.
     
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  4. TomOwen

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    Seriously though, what have you achieved in life so far that makes you so convinced?
     
  5. Griffyndor

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    Your colleagues aren't giving you a hard time. They are trying to gently tell you that your clothing choices are negatively affecting your image at work. You're lucky. In many industries you would have just been fired or written off completely. It is possible that will still happen to you (and likely that you've already put yourself in a pretty big hole). You seem to have a sense that you have a problem, but you don't know what it is. It isn't your clothing. Its that you don't get corporate culture. You don't understand why its important. I think you are likely to learn a hard lesson soon.
     
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    I assume that you get equally upset when you meet young men who don't know their Homer and Virgil by heart (in the original Greek and Latin, obviously).
     
  7. slickback

    slickback Active Member

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    What don't I get about it? Please enlighten me...
     
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    Charles Bronson? Sounds more like Harvey Keitel's orientation talk in Reservoir Dogs.
     
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  10. PapaRubbery

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    What was your point again? I couldn't hear you over sound of my seventh glass of pre-departure Dom being poured.
     
  11. TheOttosauraus

    TheOttosauraus Well-Known Member

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    Your colleagues are your colleagues. You are not above them, you have achieved just as much as them. Don't try to usurp that by pretending to be above them in terms of class or "gentlemaness".

    Dress appropriately.

    Like it or not, your clothes are an extension of your personality. When you are in a business casual environment, you dress as such. Trying to dress higher than that is a pretension that comes with a lot of illusions of grandeur. Your colleagues aren't in business casual because society has been dumbed down, or because society has lost direction sartorially, they're in business casual because that's how it is in your workplace, and it would do you well to understand that. As I have said, showing up in a suit is just as inappropriate as showing up in shorts, sneakers, and a tee, because the dress code is business casual, so adhere to it. You are disenfranchising yourself by trying to distance yourself culturally from your peers. People skills are valuable in ascending the ladder of work. You're not better than everyone else for being interested in different things.

    Also, I have no idea where you're getting this delusion that in previous decades all young men were interested in cars and sartorialism. It was never like that, and you didn't miss a generation.
     
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  12. Griffyndor

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    ^ that it is thought out, considered and the result of conscious decisions made by your boss's boss's boss's boss's boss, and intentionally developed to help the business make money. It doesn't matter if the guy working the counter at Starbucks would look better in a suit. At Starbucks, he should wear the uniform. It makes him do his job better. If everyone is casual and you show up in a suit and tie, then you are the guy without the uniform. There is a reason why casual dress is the code at your office. I don't know what you do and I don't know why, but it isn't an accident and the people at the top aren't stupid. If you think they are, you should go find something else to do.
     
  13. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Senior member

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    You guys are trolled way too easily.
     
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    I usually just lurk but I made an account just for this topic.

    I was in a very similar situation as you a few weeks ago. I'm a 23 year old recent college grad ( December 13) and started work 2 months ago. We were asked to wear a suit for the orientation to take badge pictures. That was the only time a suit was appropriate. People in the office just don't wear suits. I did for about a week before I realized on my own I looked like an ass. No more suits. Ever. The executives don't even wear a suit everyday. Just don't do it man. Here's what you can do. Lose the tie and get a few sport coats. You will still look better than those who opt for the khakis and polos but will still be firmly rooted in office appropriate business casual dress.
     
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    Please post pics. Please. This thread is so full of wasted potential.
     
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    I should have prefaced my post a bit. When I first started, it was business casual everyday until about 9 months in. (Occasional sportcoat as I have many) I did fit in at first. Then, my company decided to consolidate a few different leased buildings into one large headquarters building. A building where we have customers, partners, even the CEO walking around. It was the first day in the new building that I used as an excuse to wear a tie. It started with the tie, then tie everyday except Friday, then moved to suits (in colder weather) where I would come in and take off the jacket and wear the shirt and tie around the building. Then it just became the norm for me, until in certain situations it just became awkward not wearing a tie, but awkward to wear one as well. After that, I just thought about what I wanted to wear, and it just so happened that I liked how I looked in a suit and tie. Until someone took real offense to it.

    I am going to try business casual this summer again. Let's see if it helps my chances in becoming the CEO.
     
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  17. archetypal_yuppie

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    I think if you present a portfolio of full-suit bathroom selfies to the board of directors you'll be in good shape.
     
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    I think if you present a portfolio of full-suit bathroom selfies to the board of directors you'll be in good shape.[/quote

    Good advice, but make sure to put the seat down.
     
  20. Balfour

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    Indeed, the 'wisdom' of Mr. White seemed to fit with the OP's attitude![​IMG]
     

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