Hey guys hope can help me out here too. I don't know if they are slim enough (or would shrink enough) as I wear a 29 in N&F Super Skinny. Would getting the 29 Slim work after a good hot soak? Read the fit guide and measured my fave pair and everything's about .5" larger except for the waist. Or would you recommend me holding out for a skinny fit in the (hopefully) not too distant future? The Umber and the Natural are just both so tempting, i feel like getting both.