Sorry forgot to quote on last post. Shirts can be ok, had a few undersize those were almost a year ago though, also had issues with the cuff stitching not being clean some times it walked in other places like the shoulder yoke, and 3/5 of the shirt i got had messed up button holes for the last horizontal the red stitch was not even covering all the shirt fabric. For the price these days i would go with WvG as i am a member. Sizing issues is just dont listen to Gustin just size up would recommend ebay sales for quick checks or the gustin stock store to get it in hands to test then be burdened with reselling. Though that might be because i never liked the fit you hear me be all picky if the shirt fits and has none of the issues above you got a good deal, wish they had the "tall" option earlier might not have soured me.