Gun Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tiecollector, Aug 10, 2007.

  1. Siggy

    Siggy Senior member

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    I found the DA to be somewhat too long, but the SA is crisp wih good feedback. There's absolutely nothing wrong with buying a U.S. made firearm, in fact guns manufactured in this country tend to hold a high value amongst the gun-loving crowd...take for instance most sought after 1911's and revolvers.

    Well, Beretta is an Italian company, so some prefer Italian made Berettas. 1911's and revolvers are mostly made by US companies (at least most of the good ones), thus it is natural that people will perfer American made 1911's and revolvers. That said, the consensus seems to be that US made Berettas are the same quality as the Italians.
     
  2. gnatty8

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    I found the DA to be somewhat too long, but the SA is crisp wih good feedback. There's absolutely nothing wrong with buying a U.S. made firearm, in fact guns manufactured in this country tend to hold a high value amongst the gun-loving crowd...take for instance most sought after 1911's and revolvers.

    I was kidding; 80% of my firearms are American made Ruger and S&W. I even have a Maine made Walther PPK.. My comment was more surprise than disappointment, I thought all Beretta firearms were made in Italy, but I won't lose any sleep over it..

    Well, Beretta is an Italian company, so some prefer Italian made Berettas. 1911's and revolvers are mostly made by US companies (at least most of the good ones), thus it is natural that people will perfer American made 1911's and revolvers. That said, the consensus seems to be that US made Berettas are the same quality as the Italians.

    I suspect I will find this to be true..
     
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    I was kidding; 80% of my firearms are American made Ruger and S&W. I even have a Maine made Walther PPK.. My comment was more surprise than disappointment, I thought all Beretta firearms were made in Italy, but I won't lose any sleep over it..



    I suspect I will find this to be true..


    I had no idea any Walthers were made in Maine!

    And I've handled both Italian and domestic Berettas and couldn't appreciate any difference between them. If anything, the castings on the US made one were a little crisper. Might have been an isolated example.
     
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    I thought Beretta was required to build a factory here in the US as a condition of winning the M9 (pistol) contract with the US .mil? I don't have a lot of personal experiences with the Beretta M9 because I prefer the frame-mounted safety on the Taurus PT99 (?).
     
  5. JustinW

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    Speaking of Berettas ...

    A few months ago I committed myself to only buying revolvers or automatics that are DA/SA with a slide-mounted decocker/safety in which the top position is live, for ease of cross-training.

    Now that little PX4 subcompact in .40 is looking more attractive, I just don't know about the width for practical concealment - looks like I'd have to size pants up by 2 for IWB cary!
     
  6. JustinW

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    And speaking of IWB:

    Here are a few pics I took of my Crossbreed Super-tuck custom holster after a couple months of breaking-in. I love the way it moulds to the body yet still gives the kydex retention and double clip anchoring. Adjustability for cant is great and I also have J-hooks for tucking though I don't bother with these (the clips aren't that noticeable to mot people are provide an excellent lock-down). I also got one of their custom gun belts in the same order.

    Highly recommended!

    http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/

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    very cool^
     
  8. Ace Rimmer

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    Justin, do you have your pants made with an extra 3-4" (?) to accommodate the IWB? I'm ashamed to say I'm too lazy to have all my pants redone so I'm sticking to pocket carry for the time being. [​IMG]
     
  9. JustinW

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    Justin, do you have your pants made with an extra 3-4" (?) to accommodate the IWB? I'm ashamed to say I'm too lazy to have all my pants redone so I'm sticking to pocket carry for the time being. [​IMG]

    I found sizing up one to be the best compromise with a slim auto (like the BDA/84FS pictured). I normally wear a 31 and 32 seems pretty comfortable at the waist for a slim IWB carry, though they tend to sit a little higher. Sizing up by two might be better (though I'm not sure) but would look awful when I pocket carry.

    The only downside to the Supertuck is that it isn't easy to slip it on and off in the car. If I have to run in to a post office or school building, I leave the pistol in the car and keep the holster on.
     
  10. Southern-Nupe

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    Speaking of Berettas ...

    A few months ago I committed myself to only buying revolvers or automatics that are DA/SA with a slide-mounted decocker/safety in which the top position is live, for ease of cross-training.

    Now that little PX4 subcompact in .40 is looking more attractive, I just don't know about the width for practical concealment - looks like I'd have to size pants up by 2 for IWB cary!


    It's slightly thick, but depending on body type, concealing might not be an issue (the same with people who CC Glock 26's, M&P subcompacts, and XD subs. I'm too skinny to effectively pull it off, especially during the Spring/Summer. This is why I'm limited to the Kahr's and J-frames.
     
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    And speaking of IWB:

    Here are a few pics I took of my Crossbreed Super-tuck custom holster after a couple months of breaking-in. I love the way it moulds to the body yet still gives the kydex retention and double clip anchoring. Adjustability for cant is great and I also have J-hooks for tucking though I don't bother with these (the clips aren't that noticeable to mot people are provide an excellent lock-down). I also got one of their custom gun belts in the same order.

    Highly recommended!

    http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/



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    Justin...what made you decide to go IWB? That holster seems pretty sweet.

    ...and if I'm not mistaken, I thought you were a lefty.
     
  12. Southern-Nupe

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    Well, Beretta is an Italian company, so some prefer Italian made Berettas. 1911's and revolvers are mostly made by US companies (at least most of the good ones), thus it is natural that people will perfer American made 1911's and revolvers. That said, the consensus seems to be that US made Berettas are the same quality as the Italians.

    Very true...it's funny, because prior to buying my Storm, I was reluctant to buy a non-U.S. produced firearm. After handling it, It seemed that it was molded to fit my hands. My rules/desires changed rather quickly.
     
  13. JustinW

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    Justin...what made you decide to go IWB? That holster seems pretty sweet.

    ...and if I'm not mistaken, I thought you were a lefty.


    I like IWB for easy concealment and versatility with a Summer wardrobe. I've probably gone through a dozen cheapish single-hook IWB holsters in the past few years - this is my first custom quality holster.

    Yep it's a lefty holster - the photo was taken in the mirror. [​IMG]
     
  14. JustinW

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    It's slightly thick, but depending on body type, concealing might not be an issue (the same with people who CC Glock 26's, M&P subcompacts, and XD subs. I'm too skinny to effectively pull it off, especially during the Spring/Summer. This is why I'm limited to the Kahr's and J-frames.

    Would it work for pocket carry in jeans? 9mm or .40?

    I'm thinking of trading my 340CT if I can get a good deal.
     
  15. Southern-Nupe

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    Would it work for pocket carry in jeans? 9mm or .40?

    I'm thinking of trading my 340CT if I can get a good deal.


    Justin, you defy the odds. You're slim like me, but yet you're able to pocket carry a J-frame in warm weather clothing. When I attempt the same thing, it seems as if I have a strangely formed erection.

    The SC Storm would make a good IWB gun, but it's a little thick for pocket carry IMO. Have you considered the Kahr CW-9? The build quality is a little less, but it's slimmer and more compact.

    P.S. Are you sure you're willing to let go of the J-frame? I personally believe every fan should have atleast one wheelgun in their collection.
     

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