The whole "going in for one thing and coming out with another" is a preal problem. Fortunately my tastes are so esoteric that it doesn't hapen often, but when it does..... 1200 round without a cleaning shouldn't even be a question. H&K's will go for 10k, fairly easily. And if you are shooting something C3, you can burn 1-5k rounds in an afternoon. ~ H I guess I am just pretty OCD about keeping my firearms clean, I will usually give them a decent cleaning after every trip to the range, even though I will only fire 50 or 60 rounds through each..