Guitar and amp purchase

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  1. lakewolf

    lakewolf Senior member

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    Pio, I am a guitar and bass player, with conservatory studies and have played in blues, rock, jazz, big band and salsa bands. at some point I had a collection of 21 guitars including '50s Gibsons and many amps ( stacks, twins, digitals ones etc ). Ultimately I sold everything and only kept the essential pieces. about guitars I only have 2 Whereas, nothing can match the beauty my '65 Nylon guitar with brazilian rosewood body, ebony fretboad and thin cedar top, the only guitar I kept from that collection was a Fender American Deluxe Ash body Fat stratocaster. Fat because it has a humbucker and higher output single coils. This is what I recomend you. Great guitar, superb quality,a range of sound from twang, to quack, to crunch to scream. You can do country, funk, soul, jazz, rock, and even hard and metal with such a guitar. You can buy it new from online shops for ~$1600 or you can get it used from $700-$1000 from ebay. for an amp, you could get a quality tube amp. A Marshall stack, a Twin or a Mesa Boogie Mark IV. Nothing can match the beauty of the tones you can get from them. but to just play at home you don't need it. a practice amp would be more than enough. To play on a band and gig you can get something bigger, but to play at home, this is what I use. As I am a bassist too. I have for my home a bass amp, solid state, and unexpensive, 40W practice bass amp, that has an equalizer, so I can get a quite neutral uncolored tone out of it. that would cost you ~$200 and would be enough loud to annoy your wife's cats and some neighbors I use it mostly for bass, but to play guitar I plug a Boss FDR-1 Fender Deluxe Reverb pedal. It sounds close to the real Deluxe, close enough ( I had vintage ones, so believe me ) and costs only ~$80, you can obtain, jazz, country, funk and soul tones out of it, and cranking it up also rich american rock tones. for british and metal tones, you need a marshall, but as you are on an age to have a midlife crisis, you would look and sound ridiculous playing that stuff... [​IMG]
     


  2. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    I think Pio thought you were suggesting to go to a store and just buy the first LP Studio he sees, but I could be wrong.
    Yup, exactly how I read it.
    davesguitar.com - for all your mail-order Gibson needs
    Thanks, will check it out tonight.
    Pio, I am a guitar and bass player, with conservatory studies and have played in blues, rock, jazz, big band and salsa bands. at some point I had a collection of 21 guitars including '50s Gibsons and many amps ( stacks, twins, digitals ones etc ). Ultimately I sold everything and only kept the essential pieces. about guitars I only have 2 Whereas, nothing can match the beauty my '65 Nylon guitar with brazilian rosewood body, ebony fretboad and thin cedar top, the only guitar I kept from that collection was a Fender American Deluxe Ash body Fat stratocaster. Fat because it has a humbucker and higher output single coils. This is what I recomend you. Great guitar, superb quality,a range of sound from twang, to quack, to crunch to scream. You can do country, funk, soul, jazz, rock, and even hard and metal with such a guitar. You can buy it new from online shops for ~$1600 or you can get it used from $700-$1000 from ebay. for an amp, you could get a quality tube amp. A Marshall stack, a Twin or a Mesa Boogie Mark IV. Nothing can match the beauty of the tones you can get from them. but to just play at home you don't need it. a practice amp would be more than enough. To play on a band and gig you can get something bigger, but to play at home, this is what I use. As I am a bassist too. I have for my home a bass amp, solid state, and unexpensive, 40W practice bass amp, that has an equalizer, so I can get a quite neutral uncolored tone out of it. that would cost you ~$200 and would be enough loud to annoy your wife's cats and some neighbors I use it mostly for bass, but to play guitar I plug a Boss FDR-1 Fender Deluxe Reverb pedal. It sounds close to the real Deluxe, close enough ( I had vintage ones, so believe me ) and costs only ~$80, you can obtain, jazz, country, funk and soul tones out of it, and cranking it up also rich american rock tones. for british and metal tones, you need a marshall, but as you are on an age to have a midlife crisis, you would look and sound ridiculous playing that stuff... [​IMG]
    Hey, Ronnie James Dio is almost 70 and he's still belting it out and Toni Iammi is still the main with the original sound. Where did you sleep, with all that equipment at your flat?!
     


  3. poly800rock

    poly800rock Senior member

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    subscribed to this post, will take some pics of my gear and post up [​IMG] recent aquisition. 1976 gibson marauder custom. thing is in amazing condition
     


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    subscribed to this post, will take some pics of my gear and post up
    [​IMG]
    recent aquisition. 1976 gibson marauder custom. thing is in amazing condition


    THAT is cool
     


  5. whereismyshoe

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    Chiming in to say that the hotrod deluxe is a great little tube amp for a pretty good price.
     


  6. Sherlockian

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    You say you'll only be playing at low levels - in that case, the Orange Tiny Terror and its accompanying 1x12 speaker cab should be more than you'll ever need. I usually play my electrics unplugged at home, because my bigger valve (tube) amps all sound too fizzy and restrained at acceptable levels. If you wanna let rip (i.e. actually have a bit of fun with the guitar), better to have a small amp and open her up. And small absolutely does not have to mean inferior, as anyone who has cranked a Fender Champ can tell you.

    The Gibson LP Studio is a fine guitar. There have been murmurs of poor quality control in recent years, so if you can try one out first, do so. The 335 and Epiphone Casino a really nice guitars too if you don't mind a bigger body, and have great rock tones...plus they're easier to coax a little feedback from, especially the fully-hollow casino.

    If you have big hands, a Fender may suit you better, with their longer scale length. Some Telecasters - things like the 51 Reissue and Baja - have a big fat neck, which I find really comfortable.

    Main piece of advice though, as has been alluded to earlier, is that you can make a cheap guitar sound very good with the right amp, but even a great guitar will sound shitty through a bad amp. Spend the lion's share of the $$$ on the amp.
     


  7. willpower

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    I went on a tear some years ago to find the "perfect" sounding amp. I've owned HiWatt, VHT, Sovtek, Ampeg, even Pignose and a mini Marshall stack. All of them have their charms. My favorite by far are from Matchless. They make a Lightning Reverb 15 watt 2x10" or 1x12" which sounds spectacular. I own a 1x12 30 watt Chieftain, which is heavenly but too loud for just noodling around. The important thing to remember is that it's easier to get a distorted sound with any amp than a beautifully clean or slightly dirty tone. Can't find a vid with a really good guitarist to demo it. Here's the bigger brother DC30 which is based on the Vox AC30.
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    TIP: to embed Youtube clips, put only the encoded part of the Youtube URL, e.g. eBGIQ7ZuuiU between the tags. If you want to spend less, Swart is a boutique amp maker that has low wattage tube amps which are also really beautiful sounding. http://swartamps.com/amplifiers.htm Listen to this all the way through, the tones available are many.
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    TIP: to embed Youtube clips, put only the encoded part of the Youtube URL, e.g. eBGIQ7ZuuiU between the tags. As far as guitars, the Les Pauls I've owned were cool but back breakers - at least the LP Standard was. Heavy pieces of wood. For the past decade I've been using a 30 year anniversary Butterscotch Tele which is a great, great guitar. Also sounds terrific unplugged so I can fiddle around late at night without waking anybody. It's easy to make a Tele sound dirty, but it's difficult to make a Les Paul sound pristine-ly clean.
     


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    http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...0&src=3AGGWXX2


    http://www.amazon.com/Vox-Valvetroni.../dp/B001HYZDW8

    Along this line?



    Those are OK, they're not actual tube amps like their famous AC30s are. They do have a 12AX7 preamp, but a solid state power amp section.

    I'd go for the AC15

    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AC15C1

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  10. gomestar

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    yes, I have the 30 myself and I am very happy with it. Super versatile, though I keep it to only the preset "amps" and never use the digital effects. I'll do a manual amp if I need a bold and clean Marshall tone (so 75% of the time) since the preset is heavy
     


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    Those are OK, I don't think they're actual tube amps - much like how American Cheese isn't exactly cheese.

    no, they are not tube amps. But compared to the big boys, I thought this one emulated them the best and is especially good at lower volumes.
     


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    For the past decade I've been using a 30 year anniversary Butterscotch Tele which is a great, great guitar. Also sounds terrific unplugged so I can fiddle around late at night without waking anybody. It's easy to make a Tele sound dirty, but it's difficult to make a Les Paul sound pristine-ly clean.

    A Butterscotch tele direct into a Fender Bassman 4X10 is one of the purest guitar sounds I've ever heard. Like glass. [​IMG]
     


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    i was playing a tele out of a musicman 130 over the winter and it sounded phenomenal. better than my 69 twin
     


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    If you want to spend less, Swart is a boutique amp maker that has low wattage tube amps which are also really beautiful sounding.

    http://swartamps.com/amplifiers.htm

    Listen to this all the way through, the tones available are many.

    They've also got that fancy new pedal attenuator for late-night playing.

    I want a Space Tone Reverb in the Blackface-style tolex. The Dean Wareham clips (of an AST) are killer.
     


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