Guilty of Bad Dress?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mensimageconsultant, Apr 6, 2006.

  1. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    Man there's a lot of unwarrented animosity here. Let's please settle down, guys.
    Sorry, Teach. This is not animosity. It is merely (hopefully humorous) reminder that money is involved in this instance. One should not use the various men's fora to sell one's services anonymously. Forum owners and the public (that's you) have a right to know whose opinion is being offered when the offerer claims "professional" status.
     


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    marc237 Senior member

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    It should also be noted that one flaw in the study quoted is that American juries generally do not sentence the convicted defendant, the Judge does. The death penalty is the typical exception.

    That said, attractiveness of the defendant may impact the outcome of the guilty verdict. However, as a practicing attorney, I can assure the gentle reader that, despite gobs and gobs of quasi-scientific studies and the ponderous prouncements of self-appointed jury experts, the simple truth is that there are too many variables at play in any given trial to have one changes to superficial variables such as dress, hair-style, posture appreciably impact the outcome to any reliable degree as to ensure predictability.
     


  3. dah328

    dah328 Senior member

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    Well, it's easy enough to go to mensimageconsultant.com and see. I don't think any of us are under the delusion that they offer their services for free or that the moniker of "professional" conveys absolute credibility.

    Personally, I've found many of MIC's posts informative but I don't take them as gospel. I'd like to avail myself of the services of both professionals on this thread, but due to the price points involved, one is considerably more likely than the other. [​IMG]
     


  4. mensimageconsultant

    mensimageconsultant Senior member

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    Last word in this thread (and, ideally, ever) about anonymity:
    Anyone (and, really, it was never expected that forum regulars would want to buy) can contact Conselle and ask if mensimageconsultant.com is legit. (But please don't swamp the Institute with inquiries. All it takes is one skeptic to post the affirmative answer.)

    J, sorry for being a distraction.
     


  5. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    As you suggested, I tried to call the Conselle Institute in Utah. The telephone was answered by an answering machine. Perhaps Judith Rasband is off on a speaking tour. Further information, for those interested, may be found here: Review of the Conselle Institute philosophy and Public Relations information here: The Conselle Institute
     


  6. Margaret

    Margaret Senior member

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    I don't think the suit is that bad. The sleeves look too long, and the guy is in terrible shape, but the overall look is pretty average and inoffensive in general. I don't think any juror would be swayed by it either way. If he were wearing some cheezy stereotypical mobster outfit, maybe.

    Why do people have to use their real names to sell stuff? If I know the guy's name is really "Jan Meerkens" does that help me in some way? And if it really bothers me that I don't know the guy or who he is or what his background is, wouldn't I just... not buy from him?
     


  7. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

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    Dang it all! I though consultants were supposed to remain anonymous. My bad.

    You have to be paid some how :)
     


  8. GreyFlannelMan

    GreyFlannelMan Senior member

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    As you suggested, I tried to call the Conselle Institute in Utah. The telephone was answered by an answering machine. Perhaps Judith Rasband is off on a speaking tour.

    Further information, for those interested, may be found here:

    Review of the Conselle Institute philosophy

    and Public Relations information here:

    The Conselle Institute


    Wow. That Conselle web site is...interesting . I'm not sure what to say, other than Ms Rasband might benefit from an image consultant herself.
     


  9. aportnoy

    aportnoy Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Do Tom Cruise and Madonna (oops I mean Esther) belong?
     


  10. Margaret

    Margaret Senior member

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    MIC, the java action on that homepage is over the top and excrutiatingly annoying, BTW. Comes off as quite cheesy and undercuts the sophisticated professionalism I think you want to present.

    And why does that first link connect to a dead page on the 'Gay American Archives' website?

    Am I coming in very late on some inside joke?
     


  11. GreyFlannelMan

    GreyFlannelMan Senior member

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    And why does that first link connect to a dead page on the 'Gay American Archives' website?

    Am I coming in very late on some inside joke?


    There is an error in the link; one needs to remove one of the "http://" to view the article. The writer of the article in question is responding to an newspaper article he read which quotes Ms Rasband.
     


  12. mensimageconsultant

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    I don't think the suit is that bad. The sleeves look too long, and the guy is in terrible shape, but the overall look is pretty average and inoffensive in general. I don't think any juror would be swayed by it either way. If he were wearing some cheezy stereotypical mobster outfit, maybe.

    Court reactions to it aside, it's more than the suit sleeves. The jacket might be slightly long. The pants are much too tight and probably a little long. The belt possibly is too tight. The tie is too narrow; maybe he's stuck with that for the most part, but the color and pattern could be bolder, to draw attention away from his size. Also, for the same reason, he'd do better with a patterned shirt or possibly (if not too "Mafia") a striped suit. Compare with some other outfits he's wearing, where his poor physical fitness is downplayed.
     


  13. Alexander Kabbaz

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  14. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    Kabbaz, I've never had the pleasure of wearing one of your shirts, so I can't really comment on your prowess in that field - but you're one funny guy.
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  15. edmorel

    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    Well, it's easy enough to go to mensimageconsultant.com and see. I don't think any of us are under the delusion that they offer their services for free or that the moniker of "professional" conveys absolute credibility.



    Hmm, thinking for ourselves, like adults do... That's an interesting angle.
     


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