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Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Davidko19, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. Connemara

    Connemara Senior member

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    A big "fuck you" from the Cleveland Plain Dealer. [​IMG]
     
  2. romafan

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    This is a basketball player? [​IMG] NYT front pg this a.m. said he went to Miami [​IMG] When did Miami even get a basketball team? The past week I've seen guys w/ 'C'mon Lebron!' t-shirts....
     
  3. FLMountainMan

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    All I can say is that I hope this guy never wins a ring. He is the most egotistical person in sports, and so far he has done nothing to prove his worth. His title as "king" is probably what sets me off the most. King of what?? King of scrubs who have never won anything?? I hope he breaks a leg tomorrow when walking off the stage.

    He might win a ring, but it will likely be as Wade's sidekick. Lebron is certainly more skilled and more athletic, and his body will hold up better to the NBA game than Wade's. However, Lebron doesn't have the focus or drive. Lebron's mentally soft (at least relative to Wade, Bryant, Jordan, etc....). Wade will be the go-to guy in the clutch, and will carry the team. Lebron will still get his stats, but it will be as a Scottie Pippen type. They just need to pick up some shooters.

    I'm obviously a Wade fan (I like tough guards - him, Kobe, Jordan, Dumars, etc.), so my dream is that Wade gets Finals MVP and James just gets to sit there and soak it up.
     
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    I get the hate because of the narcissism.

    What I don't understand are the people who call him "traitor". When a player gets traded by the team it's a "business decision". LeBron James, as a free agent, only made a business decision to pick Miami instead of Cleveland because he saw more opportunity there.
     
  5. airblaster503

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    He might win a ring, but it will likely be as Wade's sidekick. Lebron is certainly more skilled and more athletic, and his body will hold up better to the NBA game than Wade's. However, Lebron doesn't have the focus or drive. Lebron's mentally soft (at least relative to Wade, Bryant, Jordan, etc....). Wade will be the go-to guy in the clutch, and will carry the team. Lebron will still get his stats, but it will be as a Scottie Pippen type. They just need to pick up some shooters.

    I'm obviously a Wade fan (I like tough guards - him, Kobe, Jordan, Dumars, etc.), so my dream is that Wade gets Finals MVP and James just gets to sit there and soak it up.


    I agree, that will always be Wade's team and he will always be looked at as the second option. I am actually surprised he went to Miami for this reason. I think though after a few years of this, he will start bitching like a baby and want out. There is no way he will be able to keep his ego in check for that long, no matter how many rings he can win.
     
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    A big "fuck you" from the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
    Wow. Was that the front page? If so, people really need to look at their priorities when escapism overtakes real life.
     
  7. bdbb

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    Being a Rockets fan I've never really liked the Lakers, but I at least liked and respected Kobe a lot even if I hated their other players. Works hard, is a true competitor, and is the source of lulzworthy quotes like:

    "I like to cum on their face, thats my thing"

    I've always thought Lebron was a little bitch and I always laughed when he got knocked out of the playoffs. Now we know he's a bitch though, because he couldn't win a title for the team who drafted him and is going to be Wade's sidekick on a team where Wade already won a ring. If Lebron wins a ring now I will only laugh at him because he's doing it for someone else's team and Wade will always have one more ring than him. I still hope he doesn't win a ring and gets embarrassed by Kobe though. With Bosh and Lebron, I don't think the NBA has ever such a ridiculous combination of natural talent and a lack of competitive spirit. They'll probably get rings eventually because the top NBA teams are all in decline and with the stars from that generation teamed up there will be nobody to oppose them, but it will just be a big joke.
     
  8. chronoaug

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    How come wade is somehow more a winner and competitor the past 3 seasons since he won a title? Winning a title doesn't grant people magical powers and intangibles. Why do people feel the need to analyze exactly who is #1/2/3 banana on teams and "wait, but who is the LEADER?". No one cares but you losers.

    People said the same thing about the celtics about all the stupid shit like "but who will take the final shot" and "whose team is it?" and "who is the leader". During the celtics title run 2 years ago, pierce, allen, garnett, and role players all hit big time clutch shots and they seemingly traded off. Sometimes a guy would have a bad night and the others would pick them up, and rondo started being as if not more important. Did it really matter to the big 3 that rondo was probably better than them? By most people's logic that would crumble the big 3's self esteem that a 23 year old was the focal point of the team and other teams' gameplanning. Funny thing is good players, especially vets, know how to play basketball and understand the media talking points are fun and all, but not ultimately important in terms of winning basketball games.

    I mean, what's more important for the heat? Everyone just playing together, working off each other and acting as a real "team" or making sure there is a strict hierarchy in terms of star status and who gets to stake 100% claim to saying "my team"? Shit like that sounds stupider the more you think about it
     
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    I laugh at all the Lebron hate. People rag on him for lacking a championship... dude there are great players who are never on a good enough team to win a championship. Look how fucking deep the big championship teams have been in recent years; Lakers, San Antonio, Celtics.

    Cleveland never had that type of depth.

    I have seen Lebron James play in person about 20 times in various cities. He has the ability to completely take over a game. I think if the team chemistry is good, he will be able to bring home plenty of championships. When people question his "drive" or "leadership" I honestly have to wonder wtf they are talking about. Do you know Lebron or something?
     
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    How come wade is somehow more a winner and competitor the past 3 seasons since he won a title?

    Dwayne Wade lead a 52-30 Heat team to victory over a heavily favored 60-22 Mavericks team while averaging 34.6 ppg in the finals and winning the finals MVP. Lefraud James quit on his team because Delonte West fucked his mom and he's been knocked out of the playoffs several times when his team has been favored to win. He had teams that won 61 and 66 games and couldn't even take them to the finals because he cracked under pressure. Wade's teams in comparison have been pretty bad since they won the title. They only won fifteen games the year he was out. I guarantee you the Cavs will win more than that this year.

    Yet even though Wade was on a bad team, he stayed loyal, stuck it out, and improved his team. Whereas Lefraud was on the best team in the league and yet eagerly runs off to be Wade's little bitch instead of stepping up his own game and being a leader. Lebron flat out told us that he's not a competitor, that he can't handle a situation where there's "pressure to score 30 every night." Can you imagine Kobe, Jordan, Dream, etc saying something like that? The true greats are competitive, Lebron wants the easy way out.
     
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    Can you imagine Kobe, Jordan, Dream, etc saying something like that? The true greats are competitive, Lebron wants the easy way out.

    Uhh, Shaq (and great supporting cast), Pippen, kaj... are you fucking insane?

    Did Lebron have anyone playing at that level on the Cavs?
     
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    Uhh, Shaq (and great supporting cast), Pippen, kaj... are you fucking insane?

    Did Lebron have anyone playing at that level on the Cavs?


    Did Jordan start with a great team? Or did he start with 3 seasons winning 40 games or less, spend the next 3 getting knocked out before the finals, and then eventually build his team into a champion and win 3 straight finals? Right at the juncture of his career where Jordan stepped up proved himself to be the greatest, Lebron put his tail between his legs and ran off to be Dwade's bitch. He's a pussy with no heart. Again, tell me a time when MJ, Dream, Bird, Kobe, etc have whined about "the pressure." Dream won a title with Otis fucking Thorpe as the second best player on his squad. It would be one thing if Lebron was in the twilight of his career moving to a contender to try to get one ring before he retired, but he's giving up in his prime. He's like Tracy McGrady with a good pair of knees.
     
  13. sunror

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    Did Jordan start with a great team? Or did he start with 3 seasons winning 40 games or less, spend the next 3 getting knocked out before the finals, and then eventually build his team into a champion and win 3 straight finals? Right at the juncture of his career where Jordan stepped up proved himself to be the greatest, Lebron put his tail between his legs and ran off to be Dwade's bitch. He's a pussy with no heart. Again, tell me a time when MJ, Dream, Bird, Kobe, etc have whined about "the pressure." Dream won a title with Otis fucking Thorpe as the second best player on his squad. It would be one thing if Lebron was in the twilight of his career moving to a contender to try to get one ring before he retired, but he's giving up in his prime. He's like Tracy McGrady with a good pair of knees.

    almost total nonsense.

    jordan got pippen and grant his fourth year in the league. lebron role players.

    by his seventh year in the league, pippen developed into an allstar, and grant developed into a borderline allstar/top defensive pf. lebron's role players stayed role players.

    jordan won a title his seventh year in the league. lebron didn't. why? because of the players around them.

    the cavs had seven years to acquire the necessary players. they didn't do it. rightly, he moved on.
     
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    almost total nonsense.

    jordan got pippen and grant his fourth year in the league. lebron role players.

    by his seventh year in the league, pippen developed into an allstar, and grant developed into a borderline allstar/top defensive pf. lebron's role players stayed role players.

    jordan won a title his seventh year in the league. lebron didn't. why? because of the players around them.

    the cavs had seven years to acquire the necessary players. they didn't do it. rightly, he moved on.


    Sure, sure, Lebron only has "role players" even though Antawn Jamison has better stats and has been in more all star games than Horace Grant. Keep distorting the facts all you want, Lebron is still a bitch.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2010.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1991.html

    Looks like the players around them were pretty similar. Both teams were good enough to win exactly 61 games. The difference is that one star stepped up when it mattered, and the other quit. Go rewatch some of those games, Lebron gave up at critical moments.
     
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    Sure, sure, Lebron only has "role players" even though Antawn Jamison has better stats and has been in more all star games than Horace Grant. Keep distorting the facts all you want, Lebron is still a bitch. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2010.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1991.html Looks like the players around them were pretty similar. Both teams were good enough to win exactly 61 games. The difference is that one star stepped up when it mattered, and the other quit. Go rewatch some of those games, Lebron gave up at critical moments.
    It's pretty alarming that you would compare those teams to the Cavs. Every single one of them had great supporting players. Ok fuck Horace Grant. Scotty Fucking Pippen, top 50 of all time on any list. Exactly how many of those does Lebron have? Kobe/Shaq and a very good supporting cast... Sampson and Drexler for Dream. You make no sense. The people you mentioned played alongside legends. Exactly how many of those did Lebron play with?
     
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    Sure, sure, Lebron only has "role players" even though Antawn Jamison has better stats and has been in more all star games than Horace Grant. Keep distorting the facts all you want, Lebron is still a bitch.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2010.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1991.html

    Looks like the players around them were pretty similar. Both teams were good enough to win exactly 61 games. The difference is that one star stepped up when it mattered, and the other quit. Go rewatch some of those games, Lebron gave up at critical moments.


    yes, but #1 jamison is a worse defender than grant

    #2 lebron had jamison for only ONE season, an that wasn't even a full season

    and, most importantly, #3 lebron DIDN'T HAVE A PIPPEN, at all, ever.

    like i said before, what you said is almost complete nonsense. your second post doesn't disprove it.
     
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    Lebron would have been an idiot if he stayed with the Cavs, that's basically burning money.

    -Newest Miami Heat fan.
     
  18. grundletaint

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    LOL at the shaq acquisition and subsequent loss of bronbron. cavs gonna be a mess.
     
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    It's pretty alarming that you would compare those teams to the Cavs. Every single one of them had great supporting players. Ok fuck Horace Grant. Scotty Fucking Pippen, top 50 of all time on any list. Exactly how many of those does Lebron have? Kobe/Shaq and a very good supporting cast... Sampson and Drexler for Dream.

    You make no sense. The people you mentioned played alongside legends. Exactly how many of those did Lebron play with?


    http://www.nba.com/history/50greatest.html

    Where is Horace Grant?

    Dream did NOT have sampson or drexler when he won his first title. Get your history straight. You Lebron apologists are forced to lie because the truth reveals that your emperor has no clothes. Oh, and BTW, Dream's second title was won with a 47-35 sixth seed team that had Drexler on the downside of his career. Lebron couldn't do it with a 66 win team. ROFL. No heart.
     

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