Groupthink or Connoisseurs' Consensus?

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  1. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Goon member

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    By why isn't it modern according to FnB though? Not sure I get it as A&S style has been hugely influencial among the designer set for quite a while.

    Why?

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  2. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    By why isn't it modern according to FnB though? Not sure I get it as A&S style has been hugely influencial among the designer set for quite a while.
    Influential in their designs, or they just like to wear it? Didn't McQueen work there for a while?
     
  3. RJmanbearpig

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    By why isn't it modern according to FnB though? Not sure I get it as A&S style has been hugely influencial among the designer set for quite a while.

    Don't ignore me, Foima.
     
  4. Film Noir Buff

    Film Noir Buff Senior member

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    Are you sure about that? - B
    He thinks because he needs a consensus, everyone else does. Read him the Riot Act... My views on A&S haven't changed since the first day I posted at AAAC.
     
  5. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Who is the best you've seen...Sedwell?
    Yeah, it is really spectacular. As good as the best Italians.
     
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    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    Influential in their designs, or they just like to wear it? Didn't McQueen work there for a while?

    In their designs.

    McQueen : I think he worked at a couple of SR tailors but not sure which ones. I'm sure you could wikipedia-it for comfirmation as I'm too lazy to do it.
     
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    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    In their designs.
    In what way?
     
  8. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    By why isn't it modern according to FnB though? Not sure I get it as A&S style has been hugely influencial among the designer set for quite a while.

    He would have to explain himself.

    Personally, I don't think he has a reason. I think those little outbursts are all about his iGrudge.
     
  9. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    Don't ignore me, Foima.

    I never ignore you willingly, it's just that your snark sometimes leaves me speechless. Like the time I saw some guy have a heart attack and drive his Jag through a lampost but was too wasted to do anything but laugh with a vague feeling of malaise slowly settling it.
     
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    Yeah, it is really spectacular. As good as the best Italians.

    Ramroop seemed like charming guy in that BBC Savile Row special.
     
  11. RJmanbearpig

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    In their designs.

    McQueen : I think he worked at a couple of SR tailors but not sure which ones. I'm sure you could wikipedia-it for comfirmation as I'm too lazy to do it.

    A&S (whence the infamous "McQueen woz here" allegedly chalked into Prince Charles' interlinings) and G&H. Savile Row Master Tailor Darren Beaman once told me that when that story broke, they took apart some of the Prince's jackets and didn't find a thing.

    Huntsman did a bespoke line for McQueen in the early noughties, but it was something like 5000 pounds and only a few Gucci Group execs got suits (as their company had the controlling stake in McQueen at the time).
     
  12. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Ramroop seemed like charming guy in that BBC Savile Row special.

    He makes some really loud stuff that I would never wear, but he is just a wonderful guy. Really obsessive about what he does. The quality control in that shop is astounding.
     
  13. Film Noir Buff

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    Who is the best you've seen...Sedwell? Well, it is true, to support FNB a little bit, that A&S is upper class in the way that Corvato is not. Cruizer, for example, would like a two button Corvato over a 3 roll to 2 A&S. - B
    A&S is definitely upper class in a way Corvato is not. Upper class read as tradition bound in spite of actual quality, slovenly, unkempt and uncaring of what anyone thinks about them. Class to burn and clothes to with it [​IMG]
     
  14. Fuuma

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    In what way?

    I have to leave but doesn't it go like this: A&S: Italians likey, Italians develop a fashion industry (Chanel used to say Italians couldn't make clothing for shit, how things have changed), Italian adopt a sort of soft tailoring inspired by A&S, big guns like Armani emerge.
     
  15. voxsartoria

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    Yeah, it is really spectacular. As good as the best Italians.

    I can believe, contrary to some reports, that A&S is sewn really well. My stuff uses the same outworkers (although coatmaking is now...well...I guess in-house is as good a term), and Foo has posted the great work that the do, comparable to Rubinacci in at least what a layman can discern.

    - B
     

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