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Grey 3 piece suit for a wedding... Question about shoes.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by JDubbs, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. JDubbs

    JDubbs Active Member

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    First of all, I know the "rules" will probably say what I want to do should never be done. With that said, I want to know how far out of bounds I am.

    We are getting married at a small luxury hotel. Ceremony and reception are there, people who know me are usually aware I can be a bit eccentric when it comes to my attire.

    Anyways, I want to wear my grey 3 piece suit with either these: http://www-m.gucci.com/us/styles/155182ESE003109

    Or these: http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/gucci-r...ferralID=2b0de87b-f3aa-11e2-a969-001b2166c2c0

    They are nearly the same, except the color of the leather and the hardware is toned down in the first link, but the second link is the anniversary edition and they have been on my radar for a while. I did order both, and I plan to evaluate and keep the winner, or there's a slight chance I will keep both if they are different enough.

    Now I should also say, if they just don't look great with the suit I don't plan to force it out of stubbornness. I do have something like these to fall back on: http://www.lyst.com/shoes/hugo-boss-cloude-moc-toe-oxford-dress-shoes-black/ but I think the pair I have might be a little nicer, same brand though. Basically, my backup shoes are just narrow, dressy black shoes that I've worn a handful of times, still looking new.

    It would be with great regret if I do end up just wearing boring black shoes though. I'm a creative person, and I tend to comfortabley bend rules so long as it's tastefully done and not a major faux pas. I'm perfectly fine with leaving half the crowd confused, so long as a smaller segment of the crowd "gets it". Quite a few people I know have said it's a good idea, and they like the pairing, but everything is on order so seeing in-person may play out much different. I just want to know if it will be horribly wrong to wear green python bit loafers with a 3 piece. Also, from what I know the green will look very dark in the lighting at out venue.

    Lastly, everything else will be straightforward. Black textured tie, stainless Panerai on a black strap, black belt (haven't bought but will be conservative), white pocket square. It's just the shoes, really the only thing I am hoping to have fun with is the shoes. Looking forward to seeing the responses here, please go easy on me :)
     
  2. archibaldleach

    archibaldleach Senior member

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    IMO it's pretty bad. Loafers with a suit are generally a no-no, definitely a no-no with a 3 piece suit and then you add the exotic green leather. Some people might think it looks cool but others will probably wonder what the hell you're doing. It looks a bit odd to go ultra-conservative on everything and then pick the loudest and most aggressive shoes you can find to complete the look. I think one can be a creative person but recognize that there are times and places to tone that down. A wedding is one of those times. Don't forget that the attention is supposed to be on your bride; you can be boring and let her shine.

    You might also try posting here:

    http://www.styleforum.net/t/329568/official-wedding-attire-question-answer-picture-thread
     
  3. Wallcloud

    Wallcloud Senior member

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    This choice really isnt about breaking the rules. You have to decide if you want to have "fun" with your shoes or if you want your shoes to look good with the rest of your outfit.
     
  4. Veremund

    Veremund Senior member

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    Wear black shoes for your wedding. Be wacky any other day.
     
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  5. HughJ

    HughJ Senior member

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    These shoes (including the black ones) will draw attention to you for all the wrong reasons; you'll look clueless.
     
  6. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Looks terrible and douche-y to me, but it's your wedding. Maybe I just don't "get it".
     
  7. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Put another way...I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but I don't know how much you're going to learn from this thread. You already know that most people here are not going to like your idea, and then try to convince us that all your friends think it's great. You already say you don't care if some people think it looks bad. If you really don't care, why ask us? You're not likely to convince anyone here that it's a good idea. If you're genuinely unsure and uncomfortable about it, then it's almost certainly a mistake.
     
  8. Calder

    Calder Senior member

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    You are going to look at these photos on a regular basis for the duration of your marriage.

    You do not want to look at them in 20 or 40 years and feel like people do when looking at those awful 1970s wedding photos we all know and loathe.

    Wear black shoes. If you must be creative, be creative with the tie and pocket square.
     
  9. JDubbs

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    You assume too much. I came asking opinions because I want them, not to put up a fight or to convince anyone. Seems the consensus is fully towards not wearing them to the wedding or with the suit, so I'll skip the idea. I'll wear them to my rehearsal dinner, or something else, no doubt in my mind about that. I was fine with the answers but damn the tone sometimes and the careless assumptions.
     
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  10. JDubbs

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    Care to recommend some black ones?
     
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    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    "If" means it's a conditional, not an assumption.
     
  12. HughJ

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    In roughly that price range I don't think you'll find G&G's offerings dull. They certainly aren't for everybody, but I'm suggesting them based on your blurb.
     
  13. JDubbs

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    Okay welcome to the style forums where everyone likes to argue! Your first response was "it would look douchey". I get it, you are abrasive and arrogant, now we have a grammar showdown. To welcome someone in this way, it's your "thing", to show superiority among the culture, and I see how that fits the style crowd, really I do. Seen it on plenty of other message boards, every forum has one like you. In all honesty, I'm new here, asking an honest question with no bias or agenda, looking to learn from the insights; and you really set a tone that fits the worst of what I expected based on a stereotype. I don't want to argue with you, and I don't care for your replies laced with condescension.
     
  14. JDubbs

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    Thanks for the suggestion, those do look nice. What would you reccomend for around $500?

    Reason the budget got smaller is the loafers are tied to something else beyond the wedding, somewhat of an overdue promise for something else I made good on. Considering I do not wear black shoes often, and they would be almost specifically for the wedding, I'm leaning towards $500 as my max. The Boss ones I have are around 3 years old and have been worn maybe 7 times, is it the style that is off on those?
     
  15. unbelragazzo

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    Not trying to be abrasive or arrogant, just trying to give my honest opinion - that it looks douche-y. You may not be a douche, and therefore want to avoid wearing things that give some people the impression that you are a douche. Or you may decide that my response is an outlier and that most people won't think it looks douche-y. But to me, the python horse-bit Guccis to your wedding look douche-y.

    As I said at the beginning of my next message, I was not trying to antagonize you. I'm just trying to give you my honest opinion of the idea, and also try and help you think about what you can get out of this thread that might help you with your decision. My comment was not to instigate a "grammar showdown" but to explain to you that I was not assuming you either did or didn't care what we have to say, but to argue that no matter which of these two possible conditions hold, our comments should be irrelevant.

    If you've decided not to wear the shoes, I think that you have exercised good judgement. If you really like them a lot, wearing them to the rehearsal dinner is a good compromise.
     
  16. Veremund

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    Allen Edmond Park Aves. The only black shoe you'll ever need for weddings, funerals, court dates or any other serious occasion. About $300.
     
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  17. archibaldleach

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    For black shoes, you want a balmoral rather than a derby style and probably a conservative stitch cap.

    http://www.barneys.com/Crockett-&-J...ault,pd.html?gclid=CIrjsvKzxrgCFc4-MgodGFgA3g

    Crockett & Jones is a good option in your price range. If you order from the UK, you can probably get something for around 300 British Pounds which will end up at slightly under $500 with shipping charges. The stitch cap balmoral is the style you want. There are probably some other C&J shoes in that style with a bit more of a chiseled toe if you like something a bit sleeker. Design-wise, these look a bit boring, but that's kind of the point. There are times when you're going for simple elegance and a shoe like that will help you get there.
     
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  18. archibaldleach

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    Yeah. If OP doesn't care about how sleek they are and just wants something conservative to wear 3-4 times a year, you really can't go wrong with these. They are a bit clunkier than some other brands but you really can't beat the value proposition for a shoe that simply needs to be brought out for rare conservative occasions.
     
  19. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    In an attempt to make up for my earlier curtness...

    If you want to have something a little more "creative", but still, in my opinion, tasteful...see what you think of the black and blue "Wedgwood" boots (full disclosure: I get absolutely zero financial benefits from Justin doing well, but I did interview him recently and like him a lot personally):

    http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/p/classseparator-styleclear-both-text_21.html

    A balmoral boot is traditional for a wedding. Of course usually they would be all black. But the blue suede will mostly be covered by your trousers, only showing occasionally as you're walking. They are a bit above your $500 price range, but I doubt you'll find many bal boots for less.

    Or, I don't know your size, but Leffot has a sale right now with these included:

    http://leffot.com/shop/index.php/sale/belgrave-black-calf.html

    Chelseas are a kind of "cool" boot, introduced in the 50s, but their design is very clean, and this last is sleek enough that I don't think they'd be totally out of place at a wedding.
     
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  20. JDubbs

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    Thanks for the feedback, this is helpful...
     

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