Grenson vs. Edward Green

[zalb916]

Found a pair of what appear to be new old stock Grensons. However, the nail pattern and size window don't look like anything I've ever seen from Grenson. In fact, they more closely resemble Edward Greens in those regards.

The nail pattern has the clusters of three nails for which EG is known. Grenson generally has a single row of nails.



The size window in the shoe appears to list both the US and UK size. I've never seen Grenson do this either.



The insole, however, is clearly Grenson.



There doesn't appear to be an EG last written in the size window, as there usually is with EG. I also don't recognize the shape of the last as being EG. I greatly doubt they are. Nonetheless, I was wondering if anyone had any insight into these shoes. I own three pairs of Grenson Masterpieces. None of them resemble this.

A few more pictures to help.

 

[RJman]

Those are the old Grenson Masterpieces. They had that script on teh sole. The ones they made for Paul Stuart, for the Japanese-market Henry Maxwell shoes and probably others had the little oval inside.

I think that model is the Radley. They were all named for different British public schools. A friend of mine who went to a minor public school was very amused to see its name on a shoe.

What do your other Grenson Masterpieces look like?

 

[sho'nuff]

Grenson masterpieces of 2 years ago from what i know all did that. resembled EG in those aspects.


yes old grenson masterpieces

 

[zalb916]

I've got two pairs of Masterpieces from Paul Stuart. Both are probably at least two years old. One is probably three or four. Neither have that nail pattern. I've got another pair of regular Masterpieces, not for Paul Stuart and with the script on the sole. Again, several years old. It doesn't have that nail pattern either. That's why I was confused. Seems off that these have a completely different nail pattern.

 

[RJman]

Originally Posted by zbromer

I've got two pairs of Masterpieces from Paul Stuart. Both are probably at least two years old. One is probably three or four. Neither have that nail pattern. I've got another pair of regular Masterpieces, not for Paul Stuart and with the script on the sole. Again, several years old. It doesn't have that nail pattern either. That's why I was confused. Seems off that these have a completely different nail pattern.

For Hield Grenson did a nail pattern in the shape of an H.

Another designer had his British shoe manufacturer put in nails in the shape of a U.

It can be done...

 

[TKDKid]

Grenson Masterpiece "Stowe", 92 last.

I have two pairs:

Originally Posted by zbromer

6472 is the model number, 01 means black calf.

 

[zalb916]

Originally Posted by TKDKid

Grenson Masterpiece "Stowe", 92 last.

I have two pairs:





6472 is the model number, 01 means black calf.

Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for.

 

[Sovereign]

Originally Posted by RJman

For Hield Grenson did a nail pattern in the shape of an H.

Another designer had his British shoe manufacturer put in nails in the shape of a U.

It can be done...

How do you mean a nail pattern ?? Where did they get an H ?

 

[Braudorff]

I have a pair of Grensons. I like them very much. I have never had a chance to purchase edward green's. There is a store here in Munich that sells Green's. Should I give them a chance? any thoughts?

 

[DocHolliday]

IIRC, didn't Grenson take over the PS account from Green? I'm laboring under the impression that Grenson's initial PS shoes were deliberately styled to provide continuity -- to put it charitably -- with their EG predecessors.

 

[upnorth]

How is the recent quality of Grenson Masterpieces?

Are they still made to their previous standards? The previous batches were well received by many and rated above C&J handgrades.

I am looking at this.

According to the seller, they have closed channelled oak bark soles.

 

[Wes Bourne]

Originally Posted by upnorth

How is the recent quality of Grenson Masterpieces?

Are they still made to their previous standards? The previous batches were well received by many and rated above C&J handgrades.

I am looking at this.

According to the seller, they have closed channelled oak bark soles.

Great looking shoes. No idea about the quality of those Grenson MP (likely made for another market, Japan perhaps?), but imo Grenson Rose shoes offer a lot of bang for the buck, even at full retail.

 

[clintonf]

Originally Posted by upnorth

How is the recent quality of Grenson Masterpieces?

Are they still made to their previous standards? The previous batches were well received by many and rated above C&J handgrades.

I am looking at this.

According to the seller, they have closed channelled oak bark soles.

Hi, I have a couple of pairs of that style and they seem to be well made, although the last is at least 0.5 size larger than the marked size (in my experience).

I do prefer the older styles, but they seem to be ok.

I've included a couple of pictures that I found of the black pair I own.



Cheers

Clint

 

[Wes Bourne]

Clint, what last are those made on? Were yours from the same seller? I was tempted by an unusual navy pair he had listed some time ago.

 

[clintonf]

Originally Posted by Wes Bourne

Clint, what last are those made on? Were yours from the same seller? I was tempted by an unusual navy pair he had listed some time ago.

My friend, I'm unsure of the last. However, I can provide the written details inside the shoe if that helps (not until tomorrow as it's late here).

It wasn't from the same seller. It was from Sausages234.

I've purchased 5 pairs of Grenson MP "Class" shoes from him and I find him very good to deal with.

I'll give details of the writing inside the sock of the shoes tomorrow.

Clint