great leaders, who are your favorites?

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  1. gdl203

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    In no particular order

    George Bush
    Jimmy Carter
    Jagoff Running Iran
    Hugo Chavez
    Idi Amin
    Ghaddafi
    Castro
    Nancy Pelosi
    Barbara Boxer
    Musharaff
    Ayatolla Khomeini
    Kofi Annan
    Yasser Arafat
    Bashar Al-Assad


    You forgot Иосиф Сталин, Pol Pot and Kim Jong-Il
     


  2. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

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    You forgot Иосиф Сталин, Pol Pot and Kim Jong-Il

    And of course leader No. 1:

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    Jon.
     


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    Albus Dumbledore.
     


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    Napoleon I [​IMG] Pericles [​IMG]
     


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    Hannibal.
    Alexander.
    Lincoln
    FDR
    Churchill
     


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    LabelKing Senior member

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    Louis XIV
    Cardinal Richelieu
    Cardinal Mazarin--Mazarin was apparently quite fond of luxury goods--always a good thing; when he was on his deathbed surrounded by his expensive goods, he intoned, "To think that I have to leave all this behind," or something to that effect.
     


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    And of course leader No. 1:

    [​IMG]

    Jon.

    Jon,

    You beat me to it.
     


  8. Jerome

    Jerome Senior member

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    Firstly, everyone in a leading position has to be per definition, ruthless and also corrupt and at least a bit of a hypocrit- those are simply the rules of the game. Secondly I have not known any leader great or not personally so in the end could not say how accomplished a person he was. (Thou shall not judge and all that.)

    Judging from the historical records I like Alexander III of Macedonia for his charisma and utterly crazy visionary delusions, emperor Nero for feeling a closeness of character and maybe Queen Ranavalona of Madagascar...as well as Catharina di Medici..

    p.s. Kleomenes III was also cool: the last Spartan king of any worth, btw...
     


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    Bumpy Johnson
    Malcolm X
    Lyndon Johnson
    Gandhi
    Pope John Paul
    Mandela
    Cab Calloway
    Robert H. Prince, Jr.-author of "Foot prince in the snow"
     


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    Caractacus, Boudica, Hannibal, Zenobia & Spartacus.
    Bloody Romans.
     


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    Genghis Khan [​IMG]

    Lincoln's great contribution as a president in the civil war was his management of his general staff. The one he inherited was seriously flawed and it required him to nearly completely turn it over before the end of the war to find a formula for victory. He found it in Grant and Grant brought with him Sherman. That was the key. A lesson our current president would have been well served to learn much earlier in his term.

    Lincoln was in no way a great President as the history books would have you believe. He had some very very big flaws in his Presidency, but since no one was alive back then no one bitches. They say it's human nature to think the past was better than it actually was, good or bad, and I think that's the case with Lincoln.
     


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    Etienne Senior member

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    I've given this question a lot of thought, especially now that I'm finishing up my polisci/history degree. I've come to:

    Cyrus the Great
    Churchill
    ..and Captain Jean-Luc Picard.


    Yes, I'm serious about the third one.
     


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    Bumpy Johnson
    Malcolm X
    Lyndon Johnson
    Ghandi
    Pope John Paul
    Mandela
    Cab Calloway
    Robert H. Prince, Jr.-author of "Foot prince in the snow"

    lol....Bumpy, if we're naming gangters, the thread got that much more interesting.
     


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    Genghis Khan [​IMG]



    Lincoln was in no way a great President as the history books would have you believe. He had some very very big flaws in his Presidency, but since no one was alive back then no one bitches. They say it's human nature to think the past was better than it actually was, good or bad, and I think that's the case with Lincoln.

    I didn't want to say it......but I understand that everybody has their own opinion.
     


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