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Grapevinehill on EBAY - RLPLs keep coming

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by kabert, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. chorse123

    chorse123 Senior member

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    Thanks, kabert. I've already bid on a pair. Sadly it wasn't these.
     
  2. kabert

    kabert Senior member

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    Supply and demand is an interesting thing. The last pairs of those gator RLPLs went for up to $1825.00. They're seemingly rare shoes (at least this model, and esp. the gators), so I wonder how many more of these gator and non-gator RLPLs Grapevinehill has?
    BTW, I won a pair of the slippers for $98. A good buy I guess, though I'm not sure how much I'll actually wear them -- the "RL" on the toe is sort of pretentious (not that I'd wear them outside the home), but perhaps it can be pulled out/off.
     
  3. Ed13

    Ed13 Senior member

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    I also looked at those but my adversion to anything monogrammed kept me from bidding. Please let us know if you are able to remove the RL.
     
  4. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    You are not able to remove the RL
     
  5. The_Foxx

    The_Foxx Senior member

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    Just a word of caution-- not everything posted by this seller appears to be the purple label line; a pair of loafers described as edward green RLPL were clearly just the polo line of shoes.
     
  6. chocoball

    chocoball Senior member

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    Unfortunately, Grapevinehill refuse to mail send items outside the US.....otherwise I would be participating in several of their auctions as we speak. [​IMG] I really like the Jodhpur boots, and maybe the EG croco loafers too. [​IMG]
     
  7. Duveen

    Duveen Senior member

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    Chocoball,

    I got the Jodphur boots a while ago from Grapevinehill - and paid a pretty penny (though still sig less than retail). I really like them. I am fairly sure that they are C&J, tho' they are not benchgrade as they are stitched aloft.

    I highly recommend them - you may want to think about a US-based member executing a proxy bid for you...
     
  8. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Senior member

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    Please can someone comment on the sizing of the RLPL Greens in general? They are apparently marked in US sizes, but do they generally run large or small? If I'm a 10.5D in an Alden, do I go with a 10.5D in the RLPL? Half a size down for a loafer?

    Your advice would sure be appreciated.

    Montecristo
     
  9. Kaga

    Kaga Senior member

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    Crockett & Jones has several lines. The benchgrade are those commonly sold by Ralph Lauren Polo, and are usually stitched aloft, both under the name Crockett and Jones and under the RL name. However, sold as Peal, they are/were with channeled soles, and much cheaper than Polo, which sells them for between $500-$600. The handgrade line is the top Crockett and Jones make, featuring channelled soles standard, excellent leathers, antiquing, etc. They are sold at Barneys for around $600, at Ben Silver for $500-$700, etc.
     
  10. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Senior member

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    RLPLs/EGs are constructed on a very generous last.  I wear a size 10D in most makes and was swimming in a 10D of the RLPL Whittakers/EG Cardiffs that were selling on Bluefly a while back.  The 9 1/2 Ds of that model still had a little heel slippage, but that resolved itself after a few wearings.  You mentioned in another thread that you are on the small side of 10 1/2 D.  You should probably go with a 10D.  Then again, you want a loafer to fit a bit tighter than a lace up, so you may want to go another 1/2 size down to 9 1/2 D.  In any event, Grapevinehill has a good return policy, so you can try 10D, and return it if it doesn't fit.

    This recommendation comes with no warranties, express or implied.
     
  11. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Senior member

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    Thanks for the size advice.
     
  12. kabert

    kabert Senior member

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    I've now bought and had arrive two of the RLPL offerings by Grapevinehill, and thought I'd give a review. The shoes are velvet slippers and boat shoes.

    Velvet Slippers. These are made by Edward Green and originally retailed for $695. They are actually even better/nicer than I was expecting. The bottom sole is all leather, but in a sort of brushed leather -- not shiny like RLPL dress shoes. The interior of the shoes is beautiful and is clearly different from EG dress shoes -- the insole has much more padding and the stitching and leather on the interior seems to have been done with an eye towards comfort and the wearer wearing these barefoot. They are very elegant and I think will be more versatile than I first thought.

    "Boat shoes." These are the beige shoes that look a bit like Sperry topsiders. I think original retail was @$295. They are RLPL but I'm quite sure are not made by Edward Green. Two things set them apart from regular boat shoes: First, the bottom sole is not rubber (.) but is very smooth, dress-shoe-like leather, with a small rubber insert at the heel; thus, the Grapevinehill description (a "rubber sole for traction") is incorrect. These would be a disaster on a boat. Second, the interior of the shoes are very nicely done, with partial leather lining unlike you'd find in common boat shoes. The insoles are also very comfortable and are nicely constructed. The suede leather that makes up the shoe is not particularly soft or delicate that I can tell (as compared to Edward Green-made RLPL suede dress shoes). However, this is the one feature that actually is relatively clear from the Grapevinehill auctions.
     
  13. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Of course you can always contact Edward Green directly and have the same slippers made up with your own initials. I don't know the exact costs, it might well work out cheaper then $ 695. If you have a granny who is handy with a needle, Shipton & Heneage will turn one of her tapestries, or one of your brocade cushions or kelim rugs, into slippers.
     
  14. chorse123

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    I bid on a pair of these slippers (maxed out though at around $10). I could see myself wearing plain slippers, or even personalised ones, but I think it's a bit funny to wear Ralph's slippers. Why couldn't Polo have just sold them plain?
     
  15. kabert

    kabert Senior member

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    Chorse,

    Grapevinehill is selling some with the plain toe (no "RL" initials).
     
  16. marc37

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    l've competed in couple of grapevine auctions for the slippers and i've been done every time by about $2.00.
     
  17. chorse123

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    Thanks, Kabert. I didn't see those. I'm going to find them and bid. How do you think the sizes run? I've read that the EG RLPL run a bit large--almost half a size.
     
  18. kabert

    kabert Senior member

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    Chorse,

    I'd say the RLPL's run perhaps a bit large in length, but I think width is true to size.
     
  19. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Did you ever get the Chinese RLPL shoes you won?
     
  20. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    Awesome customer service. I'm very happy with Grapevinehill. I just paid for the three pairs of shoes I have bought over the past ~week, and got an email from FedEx saying they are shipping today and will be arriving tomorrow, the 24th. Can't beat that.
     

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