Grapevinehill on EBAY - RLPLs keep coming

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by kabert, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Senior member

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    I think the consensus is that they are Crockett and Jones.
     
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    STYLESTUDENT Senior member

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    Originally Posted by STYLESTUDENT,15 Dec. 2004, 3:03
    Drizzt, thanks for the advice. Last question. Do you think these are really Edward Green?
    I think the consensus is that they are Crockett and Jones.
    They're probably benchgrade Crockett and Jones (they're not the handgrade Rosebery penny loafer). In that case, they are not $500 shoes as well as not being Edward Green. I was eager to place a high bid on these and just avoided an expensive mistake. Back to work and thanks again for the advice.
     
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    (Ambulance Chaser @ 15 Dec. 2004, 12:05)
    Drizzt, thanks for the advice. Last question. Do you think these are really Edward Green?
    I think the consensus is that they are Crockett and Jones.
    They're probably benchgrade Crockett and Jones (they're not the handgrade Rosebery penny loafer). In that case, they are not $500 shoes as well as not being Edward Green. I was eager to place a high bid on these and just avoided an expensive mistake. Back to work and thanks again for the advice.
    Well, Polo RL sells the benchgrade C&J for $500 - $600, so in a manner of speaking they kind of could be called $500 shoes...
     
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    The prices appear accurate - C&J made polo's run seem to run from $495.00 to $595.00, and the lower number might simply be due to the stock being older.  While Grapehillvine doesn't seem to be quite familiar with the manufacturing details, he/she seems accurate with the suggested retail prices....
     
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    The Greens are the ones with the two color, channeled soles. It's really that simple. Anything that says "Polo" on the sole isn't a Green, it's probably a benchgrade C&J if it is a decent quality shoe.

    That being said, how do these RL/Greens run in terms of size? If I am a 10.5D, then what size does the board recommend? I assume sizing for the RLPL Greens is American, not English, in which case my best bet is a 10.5D?

    Thanks,
    Montecristo
     
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    Thanks, kabert. I've already bid on a pair. Sadly it wasn't these.
     
  7. kabert

    kabert Senior member

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    Supply and demand is an interesting thing. The last pairs of those gator RLPLs went for up to $1825.00. They're seemingly rare shoes (at least this model, and esp. the gators), so I wonder how many more of these gator and non-gator RLPLs Grapevinehill has?
    BTW, I won a pair of the slippers for $98. A good buy I guess, though I'm not sure how much I'll actually wear them -- the "RL" on the toe is sort of pretentious (not that I'd wear them outside the home), but perhaps it can be pulled out/off.
     
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    I also looked at those but my adversion to anything monogrammed kept me from bidding. Please let us know if you are able to remove the RL.
     
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    You are not able to remove the RL
     
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    Just a word of caution-- not everything posted by this seller appears to be the purple label line; a pair of loafers described as edward green RLPL were clearly just the polo line of shoes.
     
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    Unfortunately, Grapevinehill refuse to mail send items outside the US.....otherwise I would be participating in several of their auctions as we speak. [​IMG] I really like the Jodhpur boots, and maybe the EG croco loafers too. [​IMG]
     
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    Chocoball,

    I got the Jodphur boots a while ago from Grapevinehill - and paid a pretty penny (though still sig less than retail). I really like them. I am fairly sure that they are C&J, tho' they are not benchgrade as they are stitched aloft.

    I highly recommend them - you may want to think about a US-based member executing a proxy bid for you...
     
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    Please can someone comment on the sizing of the RLPL Greens in general? They are apparently marked in US sizes, but do they generally run large or small? If I'm a 10.5D in an Alden, do I go with a 10.5D in the RLPL? Half a size down for a loafer?

    Your advice would sure be appreciated.

    Montecristo
     
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    Crockett & Jones has several lines. The benchgrade are those commonly sold by Ralph Lauren Polo, and are usually stitched aloft, both under the name Crockett and Jones and under the RL name. However, sold as Peal, they are/were with channeled soles, and much cheaper than Polo, which sells them for between $500-$600. The handgrade line is the top Crockett and Jones make, featuring channelled soles standard, excellent leathers, antiquing, etc. They are sold at Barneys for around $600, at Ben Silver for $500-$700, etc.
     
  15. Ambulance Chaser

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    RLPLs/EGs are constructed on a very generous last.  I wear a size 10D in most makes and was swimming in a 10D of the RLPL Whittakers/EG Cardiffs that were selling on Bluefly a while back.  The 9 1/2 Ds of that model still had a little heel slippage, but that resolved itself after a few wearings.  You mentioned in another thread that you are on the small side of 10 1/2 D.  You should probably go with a 10D.  Then again, you want a loafer to fit a bit tighter than a lace up, so you may want to go another 1/2 size down to 9 1/2 D.  In any event, Grapevinehill has a good return policy, so you can try 10D, and return it if it doesn't fit.

    This recommendation comes with no warranties, express or implied.
     

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