Grand Seiko

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  1. teddieriley

    teddieriley Senior member

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  2. edmorel

    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    Is it the Spring-drive Seiko? I would avoid those, an automatic movement with a micro chip...

    No and the spring drive is awesome.


    What is the difference between a normal automatic Seiko vs a GS which would command such a price jump?

    Normal Seiko equals great workhorse movement, solid build and materials. Grand Seiko equals a watch that is more "in-house" than any of the Swiss, as much, if not more, hand finishing than most of the Swiss (not in Lange's/PP league, but who is) and build/materials which are top of the line. They both tell the same time so from that perspective, no watch should cost more than a couple of dollars.
     


  3. weilian

    weilian Senior member

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    No and the spring drive is awesome. Normal Seiko equals great workhorse movement, solid build and materials. Grand Seiko equals a watch that is more "in-house" than any of the Swiss, as much, if not more, hand finishing than most of the Swiss (not in Lange's/PP league, but who is) and build/materials which are top of the line. They both tell the same time so from that perspective, no watch should cost more than a couple of dollars.
    The perspective I was actually looking at it from was with the higher grade materials, better finishing, more hand work does not equal 20 times the watch. As with some(many) Swiss brands who take an ETA and refinish it or tweak it a bit and ask for a ridiculous price. Just seems ridiculous to me. The GS is a beautiful watch, I wouldn't mind having one but at a huge discount. I'm a cheap bastard.
     


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    jhcam8 Senior member

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    What is the difference between a normal automatic Seiko vs a GS which would command such a price jump?


    There's been some write-ups in the watch mags lately - try this:

    http://www.watchtime.com/watch-database/
     


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    Normal Seiko equals great workhorse movement, solid build and materials. Grand Seiko equals a watch that is more "in-house" than any of the Swiss, as much, if not more, hand finishing than most of the Swiss (not in Lange's/PP league, but who is) and build/materials which are top of the line. They both tell the same time so from that perspective, no watch should cost more than a couple of dollars.

    The finishing on GS seems to be top-grade. It's close if not on par with PP/VC/AP, from what I can remember. For something better than the best Swiss firms, you should be looking at the Credor masterpieces. Those are finished to Dufour/Voutilainen standards.
     


  7. Brennus

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    Great watches. What about servicing? Do you have to sendt it to Japan?

    No,

    There is a Seiko center in Amsterdam (where i live). But to be honest they then send it to japan for servicing..

    Is it the Spring-drive Seiko? I would avoid those, an automatic movement with a micro chip...

    No it is a regular automatic. I was intrigued by the Spring Drives but they are significantly thicker and a bit bigger. The size of the regular GS automatic is just right for my taste.
     


  8. TheWraith

    TheWraith Senior member

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    After extensive forum and shop trolling I bought a Grand Seiko a few weeks ago (SBGL001J).

    One of the things i really like about it is the understatement. In my environment people tend to frown upon flashy and expensive things. A rolex would be a sure sign i am trying to be a pimp, feel like i am better then they are or want to show i have more money then them.

    Nobody except some WIS knows what this costs. When my colleagues ask me I tell them it cost me €449,- and they usually respond with something like:"wow, so much for a seiko?!".
    I usually laugh a bit inside knowing it costs exactly ten times what i told them..

    Granted i should not let 'them' dictate what i buy or not, but to be honest that negative feeling about a rolex or otherwise noticably expensive accessory has been imbedded in me as well (through cultural indoctrination) [​IMG]

    anyway, no real question or anything here, just wanted to share this story and show off a bit [​IMG]


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    Magnificent watch. Well done on such a great purchase.
     


  9. yachtie

    yachtie Senior member

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    Great watch (I'm a GS/spring drive fan as well) Now you just need to VW Phaeton to go with it. [​IMG]
     


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    0b5cur1ty Senior member

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    Beautiful timepiece. It's nice to be reminded again what happens when Seiko decides to build the best possible watch of a particular type, irrespective of cost.
     


  11. Warren G.

    Warren G. Senior member

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  12. flanker2000fr

    flanker2000fr Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely fantastic watch.

    GS are things of beauty. At their price point, even if not discounted, they have got a better finish than any brand I know, and that includes Rolex.

    I used to own this model:

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    Before that, I owned a Rolex Explorer II, which is very similar, and the GS easily beat it when it came down to finish. The attention to details is amazing.

    I eventually sold it because, for a sportswatch, the finish was almost too good. The polishing was so amazing that it made the watch a bit too shiny, especially the hands and indexes. That, and the fact that there was no lume, eventually made me part with it. But I would have no hesitation to buy another GS in the future.

    Boris
     


  13. Brennus

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    Wow,

    a lot more replies then I anticipated. Going trough the TZ forums it seemed like there were only a hand few of people who actually liked the GS..

    Thanks for the kind words and show of support for Seiko in general [​IMG]
     


  14. Fishball

    Fishball Senior member

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    Grand Seiko is nice, but other seiko are not bad and much cheaper.

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    I got the left one for less than 1/10 price of the right, a GS.
    And it is more accurate than my Rolex, about +/- 5s/day.
     


  15. GucciMonster

    GucciMonster Senior member

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    After extensive forum and shop trolling I bought a Grand Seiko a few weeks ago (SBGL001J).

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    I've been considering purchasing a Seiko (for a helluvalotless) and will likely buy in the next month or so.

    ... If GS is not incredible... I don't know what is

    congrats.
     


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