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Gordon Rush Derbies/First Black Lace Up?

mikejungle

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Hey guys. Forum boob here. I read through the couple threads on the forum about GR, and there seems to be mixed opinions about the brand. If they're bad, what's bad about them? How inferior are they in construction to the better brands? I've been looking for a good pair of plain toe black lace ups for a while now. I see a lot of people suggesting Allen Edmonds as the first pair, but I really like the slimmer dress shoe. AE's look a bit "clunky" to me. I may be wrong about this, so please don't filet me if I am; I am a self-proclaimed style noob. I think optimally I'd go for Dior's derby from their 10 Classics line. But i'm poor.
I'd also been eying the Kramers by To Boot New York, but they sold out at the one store that carried em (endless). So that's why I was wondering if you thought these would be a decent deal for about $120.
If you think they suck, please let me know why and what your experiences are with them personally...not what you've heard online. I think that as long as they don't have a lame tiger etched into the sole like so many of their other shoes, I'd like em. But if they do, oh well...I can get em re-soled down the line. Thanks a lot.
 

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