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Gordon Gekko is back (Vanity Fair article + video)

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not sure about the script and plot....
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Photographs by Annie Leibovitz February 2010

The Return of Gordon Gekko

Like New York's financial landscape, Gordon Gekko has changed dramatically in the 20 years since his pro-greed diatribe resonated across the trading floors. Annie Leibovitz photographs the stars of Oliver Stone's sequel, Wall Street 2: Money Never Sleeps, while the author finds Michael Douglas playing coy about his character's true game. Plus: Behind-the-scenes footage of Leibovitz's photo shoot.

By Bryan Burrough

Can it be? Can it really be more than 20 years since Gordon Gekko ruled Wall Street, since greed was good, since Oliver Stone and his camera first ventured deep into the canyons of Lower Manhattan? Today, with the markets still recovering from their recent free fall and financial titans doing pratfalls on the national stage, the news that Stone has returned to film a sequel can summon up only one reaction: Gordon Gekko is back. Of course.

But wait. For Wall Street 2: Money Never Sleeps, due in theaters later this year, we are asked to believe that, in a return to one of his greatest roles, the silver-maned Michael Douglas will play Gekko, fresh from a 20-year prison sentence, as"”no, it can't be!"”a good guy? "When Gekko comes out of prison, in the beginning of this movie, he essentially has to redefine himself," says Stone. "He's looking for that second chance."

He gets it in a plot that pivots around Shia LaBeouf as Jacob "Jake" Moore, a hungry young hedge-funder who is dating Gekko's estranged daughter, Winnie, played by Carey Mulligan. Jake believes that his boss, Bretton James, played by the omnipresent Josh Brolin, has somehow had a hand in the death of Jake's mentor. Gekko agrees to aid the fresh-faced Jake in his plans for revenge.

Yes, the world has changed, but can Gordon Gekko? Douglas, for one, is playing things coy. "Gekko couldn't manipulate the markets like he did back then," he says. "It's so big, so huge, that to be a minor player you need to be a major bank." Or want to be. Hmm.
 

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Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff
One interesting note is that Gekko really didn't break any securities laws in the first Wall Street film.

There is trading on inside information regarding bluestar, and straw-buying regarding the same...?
 

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Gekko's lookin' good.
 

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Originally Posted by asdf
There is trading on inside information regarding bluestar, and straw-buying regarding the same...?

Bud Fox wasn't an insider as he didn't work at Bluestar at the time. His father did, who passed the information on to him. Bud is just a guy with a rumor.

Most of the laws that were broken were done so by Bud Fox, not by Gekko. Such as when he got a janatorial job at that company and was looking at information.
 

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Did they have Flusser design Gekko's wardrobe again?
 

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Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff
That wouldn't get you 20 years in prison. I am also not sure that that was illegal in 1985. Disclosing information might have been illegal.

Everything really depends on how aware Gekko was of Fox's shady methods. Assuming Gekko knew what was going on and either accepted it or encouraged it, he's technically a co-conspirator and can be busted for it. The fact that (spoiler alert?) the Feds have Fox wear a wire to catch Gekko further implies that they've been trying to get Gekko for quite some time. Which implies that insider trading, etc., is something he's been doing even before Fox came into the picture.

Would he have gotten 20 years for the vague crimes portrayed in the movie? Possibly. If he's as big a fish to the Feds as the movie implies, then it's possible they wanted to make a big example of him. Securities fraud is one of those blanket areas in which federal judges seem to have a lot of personal discretion in sentencing.
 

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Originally Posted by Arrogant Bastard
Assuming Gekko knew what was going on and either accepted it or encouraged it, he's technically a co-conspirator and can be busted for it.

I don't remember the movie that well, but was he aware, or did he merely put pressure on Bud to get the job done one way or another?
 

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Originally Posted by Arrogant Bastard
Everything really depends on how aware Gekko was of Fox's shady methods. Assuming Gekko knew what was going on and either accepted it or encouraged it, he's technically a co-conspirator and can be busted for it. The fact that (spoiler alert?) the Feds have Fox wear a wire to catch Gekko further implies that they've been trying to get Gekko for quite some time. Which implies that insider trading, etc., is something he's been doing even before Fox came into the picture. Would he have gotten 20 years for the vague crimes portrayed in the movie? Possibly. If he's as big a fish to the Feds as the movie implies, then it's possible they wanted to make a big example of him. Securities fraud is one of those blanket areas in which federal judges seem to have a lot of personal discretion in sentencing.
Well the Blue Star tip was something Bud Fox related to Gekko on his own. Is listening in on people's lunch conversations insider trading?
 

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Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff
One interesting note is that Gekko really didn't break any securities laws in the first Wall Street film.
Not breaking laws does not stand in the way of you being a villain in America. Surprised there are no comments about the double breasted vest yet.
 

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Originally Posted by crazyquik
Not breaking laws does not stand in the way of you being a villain in America.
That's very well put.
Originally Posted by crazyquik
Surprised there are no comments about the double breasted vest yet.
I couldn't make that out in the photo.
 

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