Just an update on a Berg and Berg tie. I'm happy with it as I was concerned about the size of the knot. But for an 8cm the knot size is good with a FIH. The dimple isn't as "deep" as I would like and this is due to the softer interlining (it is lined). The tie is handrolled as you can see though not up the entire blade. That would add to the cost of the tie, no doubt, and I've only seen it on Vanda and some Drake's. Actually, I've found that handrolling along the entire blade can lead to problems (crease in an unlined tie in the front of the blade and adding bulk at the knot). Go figure. The only issue I have, and it's a small issue, is that the tie could have been cut so that the dots formed a "V" right at the tip. But no one will ever notice that, I suspect. Curious about those of you who also got some during the free shipping offer, but I'm very positive about a new source for ties. They have some nice ones right now, though no longer free shipping.