Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. in stitches

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    Ymmv I guess. I have seen you post fits like that, and they look very good, but I dont think they look any better then the well down combos I have seen with solid ties of the proper color and hue. Personal preference.


    Yes, but it should be the other way around imo. First you expand your wardrobe with stuff you can wear with great versatility, then you add pieces that are cool that you can only wear in a few iterations.


    But I dont really love that fit. Not because of the theory, I just dont like the combo much, and the lapels are no bueno for me.
     


  2. sugarbutch

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    This highlights how out of the mainstream I am. I don't even see his suit as "very powerful". For me, that shirt is doing all of the talking, and I don't care for it.

    In other news, I'm in Miami, and I picked up a couple of guayaberas. I used to have several cheap ones years ago, but stopped wearing them. I was reminded how much I like them, especially in linen. The timing is perfect because we are just entering San Francisco's summer.
     


  3. in stitches

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    If not for the lapels, Id agree that the shirt is the loudest item there.
     
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    I mean...it's a raw silk herringbone double breasted suit with huge lapels in a golden straw color. "Powerful" might not be the best English word to describe it because it's not anything like what douchebags call a "power suit", but I think what he means is that it's very distinctive and grabs your attention.
     
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    I didn't get the raw silk from the picture. I thought it was just a tan suit. I still don't like that shirt, though. :)
     


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    'Power' is not all about colour. He is certainly talking about the fabric, the cut, and particularly the lapels, as well as the unusual colour. And I think he's right in this case.

    On the general issue, I can start by adapting what I said in the loud tie thread (but with illustrations over there). Then I said that there were two ways to do this - and that they were both about context:

    1. One is the loud / quiet combination - using a neutral background for the loud item. This is easier (especially for those with an 'SF approved' wardrobe) but requires the loud item to be of an undeniably superior quality - because it will be highlighted; and

    2. The other is the approach which makes the loud item part of a complete and coherent loud fit. This is much harder - and I would add, usually requires a higher level of aesthetic ability, learning or practice than simply following what is generally approved - but actually no particular item has to be undeniably awesome in itself.

    After that challenge, I think there's actually a third way which I missed:

    3. This is to tone done something loud with colours that somehow force it to blend so that the item in question actually appears less loud than it is on its own. This is a different approach from 2

    They all have their merits and I agree with @unbelragazzo that we tend to emphasize the first one here for obvious reasons - because it's a good rule for beginners and for learning coherence etc. However, I do think we tend to overemphasize navy or dark grey as the neutral ground - if you look at my fit in this week's FC, for example, I deliberately went for a differnet kind of neutrality - the white / cream / pale grey end of things - as a foil for what I think is an amazing and beautiful, and yes, very loud, jacket (although, it doesn't appear to be that popular here!).
     
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    Oops. Union Station in Washington, DC is on fire.
     


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    Wait, what?

    Edit: There's nothing on news sites/news twitters about this!
     
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    HELP ME WITH MY MONEY BURNING BESPOKE MISADVENTURES PLEASE
     


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    LOL - My wife was in the car on the top floor of the parking lot and black smoke engulfed the entire parking lot. She's still shaking. I was just looking at news to figure out what happened but I guess it aint important to make it into news.
     
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    Jesus this thread has come full circle!
     


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    It certainly has. I'm also amused by the fact that we are now recommending navy ties to Noodles when it was his love of navy ties with navy suits that led to this thread.
     


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    This guy sold ties through our old online store a few years ago. I haven't kept in contact with him, but he's done really well and has become a good tie craftsman. Check him out Noodles:

    http://samanamel.se/products/ties
     


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    Due to the texture, I think a navy grenadine will be a lot easier to wear with navy suits, than the previous navy ties he was dealing with.
     


  15. New Shoes1

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    Agreed. Still amusing, though.
     


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