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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    My grandfather had 3 wives and 13 kids with a 23 year difference between the oldest (my mom) and youngest (I think he was in his late 40s when the last was born)
     


  2. SeaJen

    SeaJen Senior member

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    My oldest uncle was 10 years older than my grandfather...no joke.
    I was 38 and 41 when my children were born, so I will be 63 when my daughter graduates college and I feel it everyday. I've said it many times, fatherhood is a young man's game. "Run with me, Daddy"
    But as Mimo said, it's awesome (especially when they go to bed).
     


  3. ridethecliche

    ridethecliche Senior member

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    This came up in a conversation in India when we were with family friends.

    They essentially said that the American/Western system is really awful for having families. In India, you start med school after high school (it's essentially joined to college) and you're done by your mid 20's. I like that idea. Much of Europe is the same way. I honestly don't buy the argument that you have to have 4 years of undergrad as well as professional school to be well rounded. The euro's are pretty immersed in culture, art, music, etc because it pervades society and they're pretty well rounded and aren't hundreds of thousands in debt when they start working afterwards.

    Yeah, their pay is less too, but they actually get to live a little and have a sort of balance. I guess how much that's worth is up to the individual, eh?

    A lot of people justify high paying specialties as being worth it because they're already in the hole so much. But what if on the flip side you were done in your mid-late 20's and actually got to live some more of your life? Travel a bit, pick up a hobby, spend some time with the people you care about. America's obsession with work work work is a little nuts. Time spent working hurts productivity more than it helps.

    Honestly, I think you can enjoy so much more of your family and even their family if people are able to be in your position. The average person in my generation in the US will not really have that luxury unless they come from money.
     
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  4. Betelgeuse

    Betelgeuse Senior member

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    Would never imagined you were a dad, Murl.
     


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    Educationally, the US needs to adopt Germany's system.
     
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  6. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    Ur doin it rong.

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    I started making babies at 20.

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    Awesome family pics, Murl and Cleav.
     


  7. Murlsquirl

    Murlsquirl The Moral Squirrel Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    Is that a compliment or an insult?


    Thanks, Stitch.


    Great pics, Cleav. Hope you all have a great vacation.
     
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    Very interesting subject and talk about kids, how many and when "best". As a non-parent, it just so happened, being married for the second time now, and counting my blessings not having any from the first, I sometimes wonder what we are missing. Well, it might still happen. :)

    @Cleav - There is a pic of me sitting on the stone that can be seen in your pic next to your standing, lovely daugther (/s, both of them!) in Bath's Roman Bath. Very cozy town.
     
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  9. Pliny

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    this was my experience. I almost feel like a big brother to my son (I don't think he sees me that way) but definitely a Dad to my daughter altho she's the younger of the two.
    you give me the chills SeaJen. I kinda like to think I could go again [​IMG]. The upside of your situation is that you probably have a lot more smarts and wisdom to give them as an older Dad.
     


  10. sugarbutch

    sugarbutch Bearded Prick Dubiously Honored

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    35 when my first was born. I would have been happy to have been younger, but I didn't get married until I was 32. That said, I'm in better shape at 44 than I was at 30, so keeping up with them hasn't been much of an effort.
     


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    I'm turning 36 this year, my fiancée is 6 months younger than me. We both like kids a lot, but are not sure we want any of our own. I mean, we haven't even found the time to get married yet, so I don't know how kids would even fit into our lives. As a guy I could technically have kids up until old age, but it's not as easy for women. It doesn't really feel like anything's missing from our lives though, so there won't be any regrets either way.
     


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    there are varying paternal age effects associated with different genetic abnormalities. The effect for Down's Syndrome is small compared to the maternal age effect [​IMG] but the effect for bipolar is significant [​IMG]

    Just a thought- what about all the clothes and style advice u could pass on to EFV Jr ? [​IMG]
     


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    EFV Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yeah, I've heard about that, but I thought the risks associated with paternal age set in later than those connected to maternal age. Both of my brothers have kids though (& a majority of my friends), so I can always hang out with them. Well, we'll see. I have friends, both female and male, who had their first kid when they were passed 40.
     
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    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    Never would have guessed you were older than 30.

    None of my business, but I advocate 4 hasing kids. :embar:
     


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    Cleav Senior member Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    Tis indeed Bath, good spot gents. Great place to be, we're moving on today. Having a great time.

    The Duchess very kindly agreed to be my wife 25 years ago on September 2nd. We decided to travel and enjoy ourselves for three or four years before starting a family, we suffered several miscarriages and gave up, all very painful memories, very tough indeed. I got a call from the Duchess stating she was pregnant again which was met with dread not joy. They wrapped her up in cotton wool and our first was born 3 months early, more heartache but she pulled through. Two more miscarriages later our second came along also early, more heartache and upset but strong as you like she pulled through too.

    Now everyday is a blessing and they want for nothing! Happy days!
     


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