Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Senior member

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    I have been on SF for 3 years now, and i still feel like i don't know anything... :confused:
     


  2. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    perhaps you do have more to learn than you believe. in that case, the first step is to read/lurk more, before critiquing things you may not full understand. the more you read and the more fits that are well liked that you see, the more you will understand.


    i know that feel.
     


  3. TM79

    TM79 Senior member

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    @Kira You're getting backlash for a combination of stating opinion as fact, stating some things that aren't necessarily correct, and then continuing to rebuke what is pretty accurate information being posted.

    The double breasted jacket didn't do you any favors, either.
     


  4. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Senior member

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    I think it's simpler than that. Noodles, JR and Luv2B all came here with zero attitude, asked questions, listened to the answers, asked more questions and, most importantly, did not argue with those trying to help them. Kira, this thread is not going to work for you unless you can do the same.
     


  5. Academic2

    Academic2 Senior member

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    Exactly. Very roughly, the “neutral position” positions the notch on a notch lapel on or near the clavicle. Wider people can go up, skinny people down, etc.

    All other factors being equal, higher position slims, lower position widens.

    Cheers,

    Ac
     
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    jssdc Senior member

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    I think that New Shoes hit the nail on the head. There was a discussion some pages back about why this thread took off and a lot of it was Noodles' willingness to accept and incorporate the honest and direct feedback given by some of the more senior posters - and he had a lot more invested in his wardrobe than a couple of thrifted jackets.

    TM and JS are also spot on - lurk and learn before dishing out critiques. I was on SF for 18 mo before joining and still have <300 posts - I know that I don't know enough yet to give advice to GDL or Stitchy or Claghorn...and when I ask them for feedback (which is still rare since at the point I'm at I can usually figure it out from reading) I'm damn sure not going to disregard what they say.


    Fun post count math note:

    jssdc post count = ~270 in ~30 months, or .3 posts/day
    institches post count = 61,000 in 33 months, or 61 posts/day
    so stitchy could equal my post count in just under a work week
     
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  7. The Noodles

    The Noodles Skid Fu

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    Yeah...I think my attitude is "I suck so listen to others who know better."
    I will use all that the senior members have to offer in order to nail down my look to perfection.
    It has not been easy to put down all my opinions and face the reality.
    (It is hard to live with 3 bad fitting Zegna suits that you bought at full retail).
    But you learn from the mistakes and move onward towards perfection.
    Heck, how do you improve yourself if you don't accept constructive criticisms?
    This has been my attitude in my professional career and it has served me well.
     
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  8. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    in my heyday, i could do that in under 2 days. :embar:


    if it makes you feel better, i have a zegna su misura suit sitting in my closet that cost me about 3700, that i have not worn in over a year. and when i was fitted at the place i was shopping, i could have got a sick MTM isaia FU suit for about the same price, but i went with the zegna instead.

    now, the fit is terrible, and i have dropped 20/25 pounds since then, so even if i had got the isaia, it would be useless to me, but at least it would be more re-saleable.

    what im saying is, you are not alone, brother.
     


  9. mrjester

    mrjester Senior member

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    iGents, more advice needed :-D

    A bit more work here.. but I have a significant amount of credit at Kent Wang and was wondering what to get for a light sport coat that's not navy. Something that could go with a lot of things easily (I mainly wear blues, browns, and burgundy and greens for the ties, though there's more than just that) and that's a summer-weight. I live in Phoenix and it gets to be around 110 here so I won't really be wearing it too much in the middle of summer, but even in the winter, a summer weight isn't too bad of a choice here since there's maybe a month were I could use a real winter weight.

    Light weight, not too loud, and not navy. I've got these two so far as my only SC/Blazers. Maybe a brown would do good?

    Link to Kent Wang fabrics page (go most of the way down for the fabric book links). One other thing - Preferably A-D cost. The cost is noted by letter on (usually) the lower right hand part of the swatch label.

    http://www.kentwang.com/about/suits/

    Thanks in advance, friends.

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  10. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    if you are set with those for blue, and they are both nice, id defo go for brown as your next SC. i need one of those too.
     


  11. mrjester

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    The patterned one is a bit short - I Got the measurements wrong. Think closer to GQ than SF approved for that. But it works with jeans on a casual day. Only because it can't be returned and feels fantastic. The navy fits great. I think I'll drop the button stance and make it a tad bit longer on the next SC though..

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  12. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    that looks very good. id go brown now, and then maybe after that return to a another navy. or maybe brown, then a check, then navy. what i am saying is, that navy is more than serviceable. its v nice. if you were to do another navy after that, i would say to consider a less formal weave, just to give some variety to your navy arsenal, allow you to wear some more relaxed shirts and ties and it still be coherent.
     


  13. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Senior member

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    TRE1018 from this book looks really cool, the one below that as well: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3788/12812861933_1dd3c0d018_k.jpg
    It's a bit heavier though, and E priced.

    Natural shoulders, perhaps pleated, 2 patch pockets and swelled edges. Would make a fantastic casual sportcoat. I'd say anything blue/navy/burgundy/green goes with that. Maybe a dark brown tie as well.
     
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  14. mrjester

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    Do you think TRE1001 from that page is any good? Very top right. A bit plain, but I think for versatility, that's probably best for now. It's also linen, which is good for here.
     
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    I'd say the check is too small for a sportcoat, it should be thicker like TRE1008.
     


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