Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. Putonghua73

    Putonghua73 Senior member

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    I've shied away from pocket squares for a number of reasons; not least their level of formality / dandyism is not suitable for my business casual work environment (I wear a suit most of the week, with SC and mid-grey trousers on Fridays / when I'm too tired to fuss with a tie), and I'm still putting the finishing touches to my basic wardrobe (alterations tailor).

    The use of a PS immediately draws attention; thus, until such time that I have confidence with my fits, combinations and a sufficient wardrobe to incorporate a PS, it's best not to wear one rather than introduce a complex element when still getting the basics down to pat - especially an element that requires confidence, assurance and spontaneity.

    Given my work situation, a PS will be best introduced on those rarified occasions when I feel it is appropriate to wear a tie with a SC. Then the PS will most likely resemble @claghorn's Japanese art print, as I have an interest and some (or did have) knowledge of Japanese art.

    Of course, I need sufficient number of functional SC's, then focus on appropriate ties for odd jackets with tan chinos / mid-grey trousers or flannel, before I even consider what type of PS fold to choose.
     


  2. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    give it time. we all succumb sooner or later.
     


  3. Murlsquirl

    Murlsquirl The Moral Squirrel Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    Speak for yourself! I shall never rock the square.
     


  4. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    i know a guy that vehemently argued the same for about 3 years. just you wait.
     


  5. Murlsquirl

    Murlsquirl The Moral Squirrel Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    You are that guy.
     


  6. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    :nodding:
     


  7. Coxsackie

    Coxsackie Senior member

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    Not quite. What actually happened is that @Cantabrigian stumbled across a portal into Stitchy's existential manifold, behind a filing cabinet on the 7 1/2th floor of an office building.

    He decided he fancied the Stichinsgesamtbeträg sufficiently to hang around for a while. Hence the change in avatar (more to the current occupant's liking) as well as the sudden adoption of pocket squares.
     
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  8. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    Formality and dandyism are not the same thing. Dandyism is not very well defined, but whatever it is, it has very little to do with formality. Pocket squares aren't inherently formal or informal, except in that to wear one you must be wearing at least a sportcoat, which is more formal than just a sweater or cardigan or whatever. But adding a pocket square never makes an outfit more formal.

    It is dandified though. I would suggest start out with wearing just a white linen or cotton square, either TV fold or puffed, a couple of times. This is mostly unremarkable. Even though some people might notice you probably won't get much shit for it. Then once you're confident with that, experiment with other pocket squares.
     


  9. mimo

    mimo Pernicious Enabler

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    Don - another orange PS combo for you, cf. my previous recommendations (tie is Panta, PS is Drake's)

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  10. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    while i do love me some squares these days, i really do feel that until you have your jacket/shirt/tie game on lock down, you should hold off on the square.

    vox gave me that advice via PM a long time ago. im not sure he would agree that i was ready to take the square plunge, but in any case, i feel i was better off for the advice so i am passing it along.
     


  11. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Senior member

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    That's probably the best advice when it comes to squares. I'd make one exception, which is a plain white linen square for very city fits (dark worsted suits and oxfords), as that never looks out of place.
     


  12. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    yeah, but that is like weed. its a leader drug.
     


  13. Rudals

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    Maybe I need to go reread the rtw suit review but who has heard of a brand called ZILI?
    Their store was across from Zegnas and I walked in there without realizing that their suits are $6,000+
     


  14. toscano_adottato

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    Zilli with two Ls.

    You must be in Tyson's Galleria.
     


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    Yup. Are they really worth $6000+ ???
     


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